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That's a nice example of false accusations. Parenthesis are used for increasing the weights of some terms. See how he uses single, double or triple parenthesis
by cypress66 4y ago
That's a nice example of false accusations.
Parenthesis are used for increasing the weights of some terms. See how he uses single, double or triple parenthesis on different words. It has nothing to do with the triple parenthesis jew thing.
- oefrha 4y agoI have no frigging idea even triple parentheses are unspeakable now. Just ran rg '\(\(\(.*\)\)\)' in my projects directory and found many instances authored by me. Guess I should prioritize fixing these, or next time I'm the target of some controversy, someone will use these as evidence of my antisemitism.
- dsr_ 4y agoUsing multiple parens around a name is derogatory code for "this person is Jewish". Context is important.
- luckylion 4y agoSo (((disfigured feet))) in the linked prompt means the feet are Jewish, and it's not about increasing the term weight? Thanks, I learned something new today.
- smcl 4y agoWell if there was a person called "disfigured feet" who was Jewish, and you always referred to their name in triple-parens (and for some reason you repeatedly tweeted a bunch of Jewish people, always with the triple-parens) then yes this would be an good indication that you were using it as an anti-semitic dogwhistle. However the GP was careful to note that context is important here. I've no idea about term weights in these AI prompts, but you seem to so if varying levels of parenthesis is common to denote a weight then you can simply say so without the snark.
- oefrha 4y agoContext is important in theory, but it certainly didn’t stop dijit from deciding that (((disfigured feet))), which they did not quote, was “pretty disgusting”. In this climate, it takes one Twitter personality with a lot of followers to tweet out a “look at this racist” tweet with very vague references to your crimes, and that’s it, you’re a racist to a huge number of people who will probably never look beyond that single tweet. Good luck convincing 20% of them that you’re in fact innocent afterwards. Edit: Years ago when I was part of a high profile open source project, I was once privately accused of being intolerant towards trans people. It happened after I sharply criticized some trans person's backwards-incompatible PR (which later proved to be pretty bad after being merged despite objections). I had no idea of the person's gender before the accusation, nor did I care after learning about it; they were simply an Internet handle to me. I also never used slurs towards any group. Looking back I'm just glad I wasn't shamed publicly.
- smcl 4y agoI have no idea who this "dijit" is, if you're upset with them you should tweet at them. I'm talking about a handful of people on HN pretending not to know that if you were to refer to me as "(((smcl)))" somewhere you are making the statement "hey smcl, I know you're Jewish. I want you to know that, and I want my little alt-right friends to know that too..." edit: ok so digit is one of the people further down the thread, I'm not good with names edit2: To respond to your edit, that sucks and I sympathise. I think this is an unfortunate side effect of the fact that when you're on the internet you're now exposed to thousands of different people who don't already know what kind of person you are, who misread and misinterpret remarks or who might have just had a shitty day and want to take it out on someone. Hell I'm one of those left-liberal, pro-lgbtq+, pro-feminist guys and I've had experience like yours very recently. I'd replied to a comment on FB where someone complained that some public works project cost X million euros, and said that non-engineers like us don't tend to have a good idea what such projects should cost - got a very angry reply along the lines of "Oh just because I'm a girl I get scared around big numbers? Girls can't do maths or engineering? ...". I had no idea what their gender was, the name was "Alex" and their profile pic was some anime or something :) It happens, it's frustrating and somewhere in my city there's a girl called Alex who either thinks I'm some misogyny bro or feels a bit silly for flying off the handle at me. It's the internet, [shrug] what can you do :)
- tasuki 4y agoIt is in the "Negative prompt", so they really don't want disfigured feet.
- heelix 4y agoFor those wondering why - hands and feet are typically the bits that are usually rendered wrong. You can get a lovely face, body, spaceship, etc - but the odds of getting six+ fingers or toes is very high with most models. Common to point that out to the AI, at this stage in the game.
- luckylion 4y agoYes, but that's not the point. Some people seem to think that the three parentheses are an antisemitic dog-whistle and cannot believe it could be used for something else like setting weights in a prompt.
- iinnPP 4y agoWhat's worse is that the emphasis of the prompt is on feet (an overwhelming common fetish) It makes (((PERFECT))) sense that a person with a foot fetish would want an accurate foot. However, we live in a world with so many people that anything (and I truly mean anything) will be taken as offensive by at least one person.
- ewalk153 4y agoNote: (((disfigured feet))) falls in the negative prompt section meaning “don’t do this”. I suspect this is a technique to correct some artifacts.
- thedorkknight 4y agoThe context is literally that parenthesis are token weight multipliers, so he's multiplying the importance of "disfigured feet" to the negative prompt by 1.1 three times. There are even other tokens in there that he multiples with less than three layers of parenthesis
- dsr_ 4y agoI am highly amused and also saddened that the second sentence of my response, "Context is important", is being completely ignored. QED.
- moomin 4y agoI suggest getting annoyed at the people who are constantly trying to think of new anti-Semitic dogwhistles. They make everyone's life harder.
- JustSomeNobody 4y agoThe mental effort that goes into thinking of new ways to hate other people is astonishing. Get.A.Life.People.
- tomp 4y agoOr getting annoyed at people who are constantly trying to think of new woke dogwhistles, trying to find "hate speech" in anything (remember Pepe, the OK sign or donglegate?)
- theturtletalks 4y agoHow about going from master to main?
- frankfrankfrank 4y agoSounds rather conspiratorial and paranoid, like a psychosis; not to mention your incitement and implicit violation of the international human right to free expression and American supreme law protecting free speech.
- pas 4y agoContext matters. Do you engage in discussion with white supremacists or their victims/targets? Do you use triple parenthesis all the time while describing other people? If none of the above, then what you are doing is the equivalent of making irrelevant noise.
- ohgodplsno 4y agoTriple parentheses have been _extremely widely_ used by the far right for a dozen years. It's a daily occurence on 4chan, especially from /pol/, as well as being a favorite from various forums like Stormfront. Now, there's a slight difference between you writing a comment that goes `This calculates the size of the universe (((note: absolutely fix this it runs in O(n^n))))`, and you going `goddamn I hate (((them)))` in forums swimming in white supremacists. You are not being persecuted. If anything, hate on the far right using the dumbest fucking signals to try to "blend in".
- ta8903 4y agoNo way, next thing you'll tell me Lisp isn't actually an antisemetic dogwhistle.