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Isn't that your decision ? Why are these two situation related so differently: I quit my boring job as a dev in the banking sector to work in agriculture, hour

• jraph 4y ago
  > Isn't that your decision ? Of course, but that's the whole point. You want to have me? Give me good working conditions! I'm probably not alone. I would not relate these two situations differently. Agriculture or gaming industry, working conditions need to allow comfortable living, dream job or not. I'm not saying anything about unions in my previous comment, but my position is that whether it's a dream job for you should not change anything on your decision to unionize. Not even mentioning unions, you are entitled to require good working conditions regardless. What's more, your employer has all the incentive to provide you with comfortable living if you could be employed elsewhere with better conditions because you could change your decision to work for them at any time (your situation could change: new child, new housing, medical expense, etc; or even your tastes). (I'm speaking about comfortable living, not the highest pay you could have somewhere else - even if still gives you some leverage) What's different in the two situations you expose is that someone working in agriculture has (unfortunately) likely less leverage on their pay negotiation because they would less likely be able to find a place where they would be paid more (if there's no other domain they could work in).
  • IMTDb 4y ago
    > You want to have me? Give me good working conditions! I'm probably not alone. At those conditions they also very much might not want to have you. And apparently the total package "industry prestige + working condition + pay" is attractive enough for just the right amount of people that they need. You can argue that it's not a fit for you, but you can't argue that the equilibrium itself that has been reached between the industry and the workers is inherently wrong or that it should magically change in favour of one of the sides.
    • jraph 4y ago
      Note that I was answering to "Doesn't that make it a fair trade?". I can't argue that things are the way they are (including the equilibrium you are talking about), but that's not I'm trying to do. "fair" is fairly subjective. Free market is not necessarily fair (and I don't think it is). That may be part of the reasons why workers are unionizing in the discussed article by the way.
• nonethewiser 4y ago
  Precisely. Game developers accept lower standards because they think its worth it. I don't, but they're free to work for less if they want.