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Yeah. No zoning or building codes or very weak enforcement. I walked through Asuncion, Paraguay. People just build shacks and steal power from the lines. It

Yeah. No zoning or building codes or very weak enforcement. I walked through Asuncion, Paraguay. People just build shacks and steal power from the lines. It's not the safest or most sanitary but it does the trick.

Beaver117 4y ago
Almost everywhere this discussion takes place, for years now, seem to agree zoning is the cause and solution. But I've yet to see a single city or county do anything about it. Just repeating this line will not do anything, and clearly voting wasn't able to solve it. So what will happen?
- notch656c 4y ago
  If peace and democracy fails then generally there is violence or accepting of the suffering.
wahern 4y ago
This is how it works in rural areas of the U.S. Rural areas have far fewer options for government subsidized housing than in or around cities, but lax or absent habitability enforcement means there's a broader spectrum of options available before you're forced to sleep rough. You'll also see people building make-shift electrical and plumbing hookups, albeit buried so less visible than the iconic aerials in, for example, Latin American barrios. This is part of the reason sleeping rough is relatively uncommon in rural areas. OTOH, this is also how you get the sad but true stereotype of rural people living in roach and rat infested trailers, sometimes barely standing or already caving in. (Hollywood depictions of rural poverty tend to be more charitable if condescending--what they depict as squalor is usually just old, not unsafe or unhealthy, which I guess is similar to most depictions of barrios, now that I think about it.) But those situations aren't the majority.
- seanmcdirmid 4y ago
  Urban areas used to have this in the form of SRO buildings (aka "roach hotels"). But they were gentrified out of most cities.

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Yeah. No zoning or building codes or very weak enforcement. I walked through Asuncion, Paraguay. People just build shacks and steal power from the lines. It

by notch656c 4y ago

Beaver117 4y ago
Almost everywhere this discussion takes place, for years now, seem to agree zoning is the cause and solution. But I've yet to see a single city or county do anything about it. Just repeating this line will not do anything, and clearly voting wasn't able to solve it. So what will happen?
- notch656c 4y ago
  If peace and democracy fails then generally there is violence or accepting of the suffering.
wahern 4y ago
This is how it works in rural areas of the U.S. Rural areas have far fewer options for government subsidized housing than in or around cities, but lax or absent habitability enforcement means there's a broader spectrum of options available before you're forced to sleep rough. You'll also see people building make-shift electrical and plumbing hookups, albeit buried so less visible than the iconic aerials in, for example, Latin American barrios. This is part of the reason sleeping rough is relatively uncommon in rural areas. OTOH, this is also how you get the sad but true stereotype of rural people living in roach and rat infested trailers, sometimes barely standing or already caving in. (Hollywood depictions of rural poverty tend to be more charitable if condescending--what they depict as squalor is usually just old, not unsafe or unhealthy, which I guess is similar to most depictions of barrios, now that I think about it.) But those situations aren't the majority.
- seanmcdirmid 4y ago
  Urban areas used to have this in the form of SRO buildings (aka "roach hotels"). But they were gentrified out of most cities.