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I have no interest in this (happy with vim, developing under Linux) but I installed it anyway and the first impression is absolutely impressive. The installer

by fefe23 4y ago

I have no interest in this (happy with vim, developing under Linux) but I installed it anyway and the first impression is absolutely impressive. The installer is comparatively small. It loads quickly. Doesn't ask any useless questions. Installs quickly. The app also loads quickly and feels snappy. People tend to underestimate the importance of first impressions. This guy gets it. Now if this was open source and built and ran on Linux, I'd be interested. uninstall :-)

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Johanx64 4y ago
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- chlorion 4y ago
  Free software has nothing to do with money or not paying for a product. You can educate yourself with the following resource: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
  - IshKebab 4y ago
    It doesn't have nothing to do with it. It's much easier to sell software if it's closed source. Some people manage to sell open source software but it's obviously pretty hard to compete with some guy who just compiled your software, changed the name and is giving it away for free.
    - SanJacobs 4y ago
      Which would be illegal with a rights reserved license
- fefe23 4y ago
  Uh... what? I said open source, not free. Google the difference. I also didn't demand any features. I also didn't say or imply that I don't want to pay. However, this editor will have to compete with free, full featured, mature software like vim and emacs. That's a tough sell. Companies who don't care about the desires of future potential customers tend to fail. Maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say here.
  - Johanx64 4y ago
    The question isn't about whether you want to pay, the question is whether you are willing to pay so much that it would make any economic sense whatsoever to bundle source-code with this particular type of software (to bear the consequences of doing so). And you are absolutely not willing to pay that kind of money. Hell, If you consider vim and emacs "free, full featured software", you are 100% not a customer. If you're a linux user and "every software that runs on my PC has to be open-source" type then doubly so. And no (vim and emacs) absolutely does NOT compete with this product. And they are free only in the as long as "your time is worthless" category of free (ie. you have paid the massive upfront costs of dealing/tinkering with vim and emacs to bring it to some shoddy level of parity). Linux+"open source/free software beggary"+vim/emacs automatically puts you so far out of the pool of potential paying future customers for basically any type of software - it's not even funny.
- jostiniane 4y ago
  Your comment is out of place at so many levels. First, you don't know there are commercial products being completely open source. Second, as a user, the one has the right to put their priorities regardless of your irrelevant opinion on them being good or bad. Finally, I fail to understand the hostility against somebody who simply expressed what they want to see in an editor, something that contributes nicely to the thread, unlike your hostile purely negative comment.
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    - natrys 4y ago
      > the author is being pressured/bullied This is such a ridiculous read on the original comment. OP was commenting on his personal preference, on a public forum. If you think one random person's review that isn't even particularly directed, would lead to said author feeling pressured/bullied into making a tremendously stupid decision (as you put it), you are being very insulting towards most of all the author's own decision making ability.

by fefe23 4y ago

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chlorion 4y ago
Free software has nothing to do with money or not paying for a product. You can educate yourself with the following resource: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
- IshKebab 4y ago
  It doesn't have nothing to do with it. It's much easier to sell software if it's closed source. Some people manage to sell open source software but it's obviously pretty hard to compete with some guy who just compiled your software, changed the name and is giving it away for free.
  - SanJacobs 4y ago
    Which would be illegal with a rights reserved license
fefe23 4y ago
Uh... what? I said open source, not free. Google the difference. I also didn't demand any features. I also didn't say or imply that I don't want to pay. However, this editor will have to compete with free, full featured, mature software like vim and emacs. That's a tough sell. Companies who don't care about the desires of future potential customers tend to fail. Maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say here.
- Johanx64 4y ago
  The question isn't about whether you want to pay, the question is whether you are willing to pay so much that it would make any economic sense whatsoever to bundle source-code with this particular type of software (to bear the consequences of doing so). And you are absolutely not willing to pay that kind of money. Hell, If you consider vim and emacs "free, full featured software", you are 100% not a customer. If you're a linux user and "every software that runs on my PC has to be open-source" type then doubly so. And no (vim and emacs) absolutely does NOT compete with this product. And they are free only in the as long as "your time is worthless" category of free (ie. you have paid the massive upfront costs of dealing/tinkering with vim and emacs to bring it to some shoddy level of parity). Linux+"open source/free software beggary"+vim/emacs automatically puts you so far out of the pool of potential paying future customers for basically any type of software - it's not even funny.
jostiniane 4y ago
Your comment is out of place at so many levels. First, you don't know there are commercial products being completely open source. Second, as a user, the one has the right to put their priorities regardless of your irrelevant opinion on them being good or bad. Finally, I fail to understand the hostility against somebody who simply expressed what they want to see in an editor, something that contributes nicely to the thread, unlike your hostile purely negative comment.
- Johanx64 4y ago
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  - natrys 4y ago
    > the author is being pressured/bullied This is such a ridiculous read on the original comment. OP was commenting on his personal preference, on a public forum. If you think one random person's review that isn't even particularly directed, would lead to said author feeling pressured/bullied into making a tremendously stupid decision (as you put it), you are being very insulting towards most of all the author's own decision making ability.