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fabianhjr 4y ago
e-mails were released as part of an antipoaching lawsuit (wage supression/wage theft); Apple, Google and others settled. https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/apple-google-others-settle-anti-poaching-lawsuit-for-415-million/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/apple-google-others-... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-google-lawsuit-idUSKBN0KO2RG20150115 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-google-lawsuit-idUS... Even by then most of those same companies had already settle another case that included ending those agreements: https://www.cnet.com/culture/doj-settles-no-recruit-claims-against-tech-companies/ https://www.cnet.com/culture/doj-settles-no-recruit-claims-a... https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-requires-six-high-tech-companies-stop-entering-anticompetitive-employee https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-requires-s...
- alexchantavy 4y ago
  I’m not sure how the laws work but from reading that justice.gov link, anti poaching agreements are illegal and are actually enforceable, right?
  - fabianhjr 4y ago
    And that is in the infamous anti-worker US; though I think you meant unenforceable (the companies wouldn't be able to use the legal system to enforce them) In the rest of the world Steve Jobs / Apple would have been in a bigger trouble just from the start of the emails.
    - 1123581321 4y ago
      The US is far from the worst. It typically rates behind European nations and ahead of much of Asia-Pacific, Africa and the Middle East. Here’s one recent comprehensive labor report, for example. https://files.mutualcdn.com/ituc/files/2022-ITUC-Rights-Index-Exec-Summ-EN_2022-08-10-062736.pdf https://files.mutualcdn.com/ituc/files/2022-ITUC-Rights-Inde...
      - ilyt 4y ago
        "We have better protection laws that some regimes and 3rd world countries!"
        josefx 4y ago
        Fine print: Said regimes may or may not have been the result of us sending military and weapons to kill any and all possible human rights movements and keep slave labor going.
        1123581321 4y ago
        There was no implied commentary on my part, just a friendly push back on light eurocentrism.
        fabianhjr 4y ago
        I'm from LATAM.
        1123581321 4y ago
        Well, you’ve really no excuse then. :)

Had?

e-mails were released as part of an antipoaching lawsuit (wage supression/wage theft); Apple, Google and others settled. https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/apple-google-others-settle-anti-poaching-lawsuit-for-415-million/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/apple-google-others-... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-google-lawsuit-idUSKBN0KO2RG20150115 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-google-lawsuit-idUS... Even by then most of those same companies had already settle another case that included ending those agreements: https://www.cnet.com/culture/doj-settles-no-recruit-claims-against-tech-companies/ https://www.cnet.com/culture/doj-settles-no-recruit-claims-a... https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-requires-six-high-tech-companies-stop-entering-anticompetitive-employee https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-requires-s...

alexchantavy 4y ago
I’m not sure how the laws work but from reading that justice.gov link, anti poaching agreements are illegal and are actually enforceable, right?
- fabianhjr 4y ago
  And that is in the infamous anti-worker US; though I think you meant unenforceable (the companies wouldn't be able to use the legal system to enforce them) In the rest of the world Steve Jobs / Apple would have been in a bigger trouble just from the start of the emails.
  - 1123581321 4y ago
    The US is far from the worst. It typically rates behind European nations and ahead of much of Asia-Pacific, Africa and the Middle East. Here’s one recent comprehensive labor report, for example. https://files.mutualcdn.com/ituc/files/2022-ITUC-Rights-Index-Exec-Summ-EN_2022-08-10-062736.pdf https://files.mutualcdn.com/ituc/files/2022-ITUC-Rights-Inde...
    - ilyt 4y ago
      "We have better protection laws that some regimes and 3rd world countries!"
      - josefx 4y ago
        Fine print: Said regimes may or may not have been the result of us sending military and weapons to kill any and all possible human rights movements and keep slave labor going.
      - 1123581321 4y ago
        There was no implied commentary on my part, just a friendly push back on light eurocentrism.
        fabianhjr 4y ago
        I'm from LATAM.
        1123581321 4y ago
        Well, you’ve really no excuse then. :)