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>> An employer cannot prohibit This is my biggest pet peeve with YouTubers. THEY ARE NOT EMPLOYEES OF YOUTUBE. employment laws do not apply to a youtuber, u

>> An employer cannot prohibit This is my biggest pet peeve with YouTubers. THEY ARE NOT EMPLOYEES OF YOUTUBE. employment laws do not apply to a youtuber, unless they are employed by some other company, but they do NOT have an employment relationship with YouTube, they are not "employees" of YouTube, and Susan Wojcicki is not "their boss"

dec0dedab0de 4y ago
That's an odd pet peeve, and while you're probably right in most places, I wouldn't be surprised if some countries define employee differently. Atleast in regards to wether or not certain practices or fine print is legal.
- phpisthebest 4y ago
  >>That's an odd pet peeve Everytime there is a YT Change (like happen recently) there is all these videos where YT often try to compare their experience with employment, how their "boss" Susan did something, or how they are being "Fired" if they get banned, or other such non-sense. That is my peeve. >>I wouldn't be surprised if some countries define employee differently. I would be surprised if any nation classified a person uploading videos on to a platform with the hopes of having a revenue share on ads the 3rd party sells on those videos is in anyway an "employee" of any kind. I would also be surprised if any country has laws where 2 parties could not agree to non-disclosure of the terms of their business contract (which is the basis for this comment thread). that is pretty standard really I would also be surprised since most of the time when you upload a video you have to agree you will be governed under the Laws of the US, and even more specific the laws of California
  - coldtea 4y ago
    >I would be surprised if any nation classified a person uploading videos on to a platform with the hopes of having a revenue share on ads the 3rd party sells on those videos is in anyway an "employee" of any kind. I would be surprised in some countries dont change their laws at some time to account for this digital sharecropping (from Youtube and iOS App Store to Uber, etc), and set some rules (like with employment) to this wild west of making a living that affects millions...
    - lotsofpulp 4y ago
      Digital sharecropping? Any country or group of people is welcome to spin up their own data centers and content moderations teams to make their own YouTube.
      - smadge 4y ago
        The digital sharecropper analogy is less about the monopoly position of platforms but about the content creator and platform relationship. More platforms wouldn’t change that relationship.
        lotsofpulp 4y ago
        The platform owner can change the relationship, for example if it’s is publicly owned. The point is is no one else in the world wants to make the enormous investment required to create a YouTube, so why should they get to make the rules? It is not technically hard to make a YouTube alternative, just expensive.
      - Dylan16807 4y ago
        Isn't buying your own farm easier then spinning up your own data center? I really don't understand the point you're trying to make.
        lotsofpulp 4y ago
        For an individual, yes. For a country? It is just a matter of the country not wanting to spend the money to buy servers, bandwidth, and labor to moderate.
        Dylan16807 4y ago
        Why are countries coming up now? I thought you were arguing against the sharecropping analogy, and the people that do sharecropping are all low-power individuals. "Someone rich could make a new ecosystem" is unrelated to whether the current ecosystem resembles sharecropping.
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dec0dedab0de 4y ago

That's an odd pet peeve, and while you're probably right in most places, I wouldn't be surprised if some countries define employee differently. Atleast in regards to wether or not certain practices or fine print is legal.

phpisthebest 4y ago
>>That's an odd pet peeve Everytime there is a YT Change (like happen recently) there is all these videos where YT often try to compare their experience with employment, how their "boss" Susan did something, or how they are being "Fired" if they get banned, or other such non-sense. That is my peeve. >>I wouldn't be surprised if some countries define employee differently. I would be surprised if any nation classified a person uploading videos on to a platform with the hopes of having a revenue share on ads the 3rd party sells on those videos is in anyway an "employee" of any kind. I would also be surprised if any country has laws where 2 parties could not agree to non-disclosure of the terms of their business contract (which is the basis for this comment thread). that is pretty standard really I would also be surprised since most of the time when you upload a video you have to agree you will be governed under the Laws of the US, and even more specific the laws of California
- coldtea 4y ago
  >I would be surprised if any nation classified a person uploading videos on to a platform with the hopes of having a revenue share on ads the 3rd party sells on those videos is in anyway an "employee" of any kind. I would be surprised in some countries dont change their laws at some time to account for this digital sharecropping (from Youtube and iOS App Store to Uber, etc), and set some rules (like with employment) to this wild west of making a living that affects millions...
  - lotsofpulp 4y ago
    Digital sharecropping? Any country or group of people is welcome to spin up their own data centers and content moderations teams to make their own YouTube.
    - smadge 4y ago
      The digital sharecropper analogy is less about the monopoly position of platforms but about the content creator and platform relationship. More platforms wouldn’t change that relationship.
      - lotsofpulp 4y ago
        The platform owner can change the relationship, for example if it’s is publicly owned. The point is is no one else in the world wants to make the enormous investment required to create a YouTube, so why should they get to make the rules? It is not technically hard to make a YouTube alternative, just expensive.
    - Dylan16807 4y ago
      Isn't buying your own farm easier then spinning up your own data center? I really don't understand the point you're trying to make.
      - lotsofpulp 4y ago
        For an individual, yes. For a country? It is just a matter of the country not wanting to spend the money to buy servers, bandwidth, and labor to moderate.
        Dylan16807 4y ago
        Why are countries coming up now? I thought you were arguing against the sharecropping analogy, and the people that do sharecropping are all low-power individuals. "Someone rich could make a new ecosystem" is unrelated to whether the current ecosystem resembles sharecropping.

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