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Confirmed Covid-19 deaths per million vs. GDP per capita, Jan 1, 2023

9 points by ls15 4y ago

oifjsidjf 4y ago
>> Due to varying protocols and challenges in the attribution of the cause of death, the number of confirmed deaths may not accurately represent the true number of deaths caused by COVID-19. How can this then be "confirmed deaths" if they themselves state it's not possible to accurately determine them.
- ls15 4y ago
  Confirmed by the authorities of the respective countries, as opposed to confirmed by independent researchers, which I guess is impossible to do.
pjc50 4y ago
Defaults to log-log, which isn't terribly helpful. Also, "GDP per capita based on purchasing power parity (PPP). PPP GDP is gross domestic product converted to international dollars using purchasing power parity rates": that's also likely to trip people up. It would seem that the most likely explanation is that richer countries are better at confirming deaths? Or that small, dense urban microstates did badly? (Hong Kong the massive outlier)
- 082349872349872 4y ago
  Poorer countries are likely to have a heavily-young population pyramid? Less likely to have lots of long-range travel? It might be interesting to replot these vs median age. (I prefer log-log as none of the scatter gets smushed; what would you prefer?)
thebruce87m 4y ago
It would be interesting to see this with excess mortality instead: https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-...
- isaacremuant 4y ago
  Would be more accurate too since the different ways to attribute deaths to covid really pollutes the data. For instance, in some places, they literally went with "any death within N amount of days after a positive covid test" (N usually being around 28 days) no matter what the reason was. The creates an inflated number that was convenient for politicians/health orgs to drive whichever policy they desired. Data was usually massaged to justify pre decided policy, not the other way around (common occurrence in economics/politics and think tanks).
  - cplusplusfellow 4y ago
    The proverbial “motorcycle accident 3 weeks after fully recovering from covid” was particularly maddening when used to justify virtually unlimited powers. More credibility was lost than compliance was gained, I guarantee you.
BnRJ401E29F8Q3v 4y ago
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- fancyfredbot 4y ago
  6.7 million people have died according to the same source as the OP. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-deaths-and-cases-covid-19 https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-deaths-and-cas....
- thebruce87m 4y ago
  Millions died despite mitigations. The excess mortality in some countries was 1,000 per 100k, much worse than bad flu seasons which are sub 100 per 100k.
aaron695 4y ago
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9 points by ls15 4y ago

>> Due to varying protocols and challenges in the attribution of the cause of death, the number of confirmed deaths may not accurately represent the true number of deaths caused by COVID-19. How can this then be "confirmed deaths" if they themselves state it's not possible to accurately determine them.

ls15 4y ago
Confirmed by the authorities of the respective countries, as opposed to confirmed by independent researchers, which I guess is impossible to do.

pjc50 4y ago

Defaults to log-log, which isn't terribly helpful. Also, "GDP per capita based on purchasing power parity (PPP). PPP GDP is gross domestic product converted to international dollars using purchasing power parity rates": that's also likely to trip people up. It would seem that the most likely explanation is that richer countries are better at confirming deaths? Or that small, dense urban microstates did badly? (Hong Kong the massive outlier)

082349872349872 4y ago
Poorer countries are likely to have a heavily-young population pyramid? Less likely to have lots of long-range travel? It might be interesting to replot these vs median age. (I prefer log-log as none of the scatter gets smushed; what would you prefer?)

thebruce87m 4y ago

It would be interesting to see this with excess mortality instead: https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-...

isaacremuant 4y ago
Would be more accurate too since the different ways to attribute deaths to covid really pollutes the data. For instance, in some places, they literally went with "any death within N amount of days after a positive covid test" (N usually being around 28 days) no matter what the reason was. The creates an inflated number that was convenient for politicians/health orgs to drive whichever policy they desired. Data was usually massaged to justify pre decided policy, not the other way around (common occurrence in economics/politics and think tanks).
- cplusplusfellow 4y ago
  The proverbial “motorcycle accident 3 weeks after fully recovering from covid” was particularly maddening when used to justify virtually unlimited powers. More credibility was lost than compliance was gained, I guarantee you.

BnRJ401E29F8Q3v 4y ago

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fancyfredbot 4y ago
6.7 million people have died according to the same source as the OP. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-deaths-and-cases-covid-19 https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-deaths-and-cas....
thebruce87m 4y ago
Millions died despite mitigations. The excess mortality in some countries was 1,000 per 100k, much worse than bad flu seasons which are sub 100 per 100k.

aaron695 4y ago

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