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People never change because of YOU. This applies to work, relationship and family. It made me click about the saying that science advances one funeral at a tim

by a_c 4y ago

People never change because of YOU. This applies to work, relationship and family. It made me click about the saying that science advances one funeral at a time. It is easier to rally people of similar thought than to change people of opposite opinion. Not impossible, just more difficult. It explains a lot of thing in my opinion. 1. It is easier to start a start up than to convince your boss to take a certain product direction. E.g to not pursue certain pursuit, as outlined by John carmack's departure from meta. The ultimate judgement will be whether YOUR idea survive rather than whether your boss buy your idea. And I prefer bootstrap, at least for now, for that reason. 2. Never attempt to change your spouse. Find the common ground instead. 3. Empathy is mostly about experience sharing. You can't have people feel something they never experience before. If you can empathize, it means you have experience to draw similarity between. Imagine teaching a 18yo to be a father, that's how preaching people to be empathetic felt like.

fritzo 4y ago
Yes, that resonates. But how do people change? Through their own rude awakenings? When they contrast their own selected peer group with other teams?
- marcosdumay 4y ago
  People change due to their own concepts that take a while to click. You can have an impact there. But you can't cause immediate change.
- a_c 4y ago
  "Change" is manifestation of idea. If you have the idea that sleeping 8 hours a day is beneficial, you are very likely to act like it. Imo, ideas form within the spectrum of indoctrination and "epiphany". Indoctrination is something that you hear over and over, and sort of taking it as granted. Parent to children, school to students, religion to devotees, government to citizen, social media to general public, hackernews to us developers, all impart their flavors to our mind and we act according to it. Take sleeping for example, sleep well, sleep long enough, sleep early shouldn't elicit much debate, we treat it as truth more of less. On the other hand, dietary cholesterol consumption, which is considered, advertised and indoctrinated as bad for more than 5 decades has now garnered some attention to consider otherwise [1][2][3] Epiphany is circumstantial, event driven. Either you have a lightbulb moment, or reality decides to slap you in the face. Having a close friend/relative die at a young age will either makes you treasure life a lot more, or send you into deep depression. But it will change you forever for sure. On the other hand, again taking sleeping as an example, I have been a night person since teenage, habitually sleeping at 3am, 4am, feeling drowsy in the morning and study/work in the late evening. "I prefer working in silence" is the excuse I gave to the then self. One day it dawn on me that there are only 24 hours a day, if I can get things done in 1am before sleep, I can equally get things done in 6am after sleep. And if I can rest well, I can get things done quicker. No new information just one day I viscerally feel that shifting the biological clock earlier makes more. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancel_Keys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancel_Keys 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Countries_Study https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Countries_Study 3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lustig https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lustig
  - urthor 4y ago
    There's a noticeable difference in my abilities at the start and end of the day. At the start I have more processing power and short term memory grunt. At the end I have far more knowledge loaded into cache. The first part of the ole sleep schedule is just plain getting enough REM. The next level of coordination is scheduling your time to take advantage of the morning horsepower, and end of day creativity.
H8crilA 4y ago
Reminds me of "managing unmotivated people is hard, so don't".
a_c 4y ago
btw, I think my comment is just a different take to fortituded0002's comment "Everyone is the main character in their own story." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34209966 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34209966

by a_c 4y ago

fritzo 4y ago

Yes, that resonates. But how do people change? Through their own rude awakenings? When they contrast their own selected peer group with other teams?

marcosdumay 4y ago
People change due to their own concepts that take a while to click. You can have an impact there. But you can't cause immediate change.
a_c 4y ago
"Change" is manifestation of idea. If you have the idea that sleeping 8 hours a day is beneficial, you are very likely to act like it. Imo, ideas form within the spectrum of indoctrination and "epiphany". Indoctrination is something that you hear over and over, and sort of taking it as granted. Parent to children, school to students, religion to devotees, government to citizen, social media to general public, hackernews to us developers, all impart their flavors to our mind and we act according to it. Take sleeping for example, sleep well, sleep long enough, sleep early shouldn't elicit much debate, we treat it as truth more of less. On the other hand, dietary cholesterol consumption, which is considered, advertised and indoctrinated as bad for more than 5 decades has now garnered some attention to consider otherwise [1][2][3] Epiphany is circumstantial, event driven. Either you have a lightbulb moment, or reality decides to slap you in the face. Having a close friend/relative die at a young age will either makes you treasure life a lot more, or send you into deep depression. But it will change you forever for sure. On the other hand, again taking sleeping as an example, I have been a night person since teenage, habitually sleeping at 3am, 4am, feeling drowsy in the morning and study/work in the late evening. "I prefer working in silence" is the excuse I gave to the then self. One day it dawn on me that there are only 24 hours a day, if I can get things done in 1am before sleep, I can equally get things done in 6am after sleep. And if I can rest well, I can get things done quicker. No new information just one day I viscerally feel that shifting the biological clock earlier makes more. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancel_Keys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancel_Keys 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Countries_Study https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Countries_Study 3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lustig https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lustig
- urthor 4y ago
  There's a noticeable difference in my abilities at the start and end of the day. At the start I have more processing power and short term memory grunt. At the end I have far more knowledge loaded into cache. The first part of the ole sleep schedule is just plain getting enough REM. The next level of coordination is scheduling your time to take advantage of the morning horsepower, and end of day creativity.

H8crilA 4y ago

Reminds me of "managing unmotivated people is hard, so don't".

a_c 4y ago

btw, I think my comment is just a different take to fortituded0002's comment "Everyone is the main character in their own story." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34209966 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34209966