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Society lets people sell their bodies in more exploitative ways for less money. Recently I was listening to an interview with a sex worker talking about how sh

Society lets people sell their bodies in more exploitative ways for less money. Recently I was listening to an interview with a sex worker talking about how she far preferred that to working in a factory.

dragonwriter 4y ago
> Society lets people sell their bodies in more exploitative ways for less money. Marginalizing sex work is done largely to increase the supply of labor (and thereby depress its price) for other forms of exploitation. (Making those who remain sex workers more exploitable by removing access to the resources other workers have is also a motive.)
rgoulter 4y ago
I liked this essay on the topic. I recall it discussing that, while sex work is often pretty shitty, so are the alternatives; and discusses how while society will judge sex work (as exploitative), not much is done to sincerely protect/benefit sex workers, either. https://www.nplusonemag.com/issue-35/essays/cashconsent/ https://www.nplusonemag.com/issue-35/essays/cashconsent/
Georgelemental 4y ago
If factories have exploitative working conditions, pass laws to fix that. Don't legalize more immorality and exploitation
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  > immorality Your opinion, if you mean there's an inherent difference from other jobs. > exploitation Every new kind of job is "more exploitation" at some level. That's not a good enough reason by itself.
  - Georgelemental 4y ago
    Prostitution is immoral because it: - Weakens the nuclear family, which is the foundation of stable civilization, by decoupling sex from responsibility - Exploits women, and then once they have grown old and wrinkled leaves them without support of any kind - Can result in a child, which the prostitute is likely not equipped to care for
    - Dylan16807 4y ago
      > - Weakens the nuclear family, which is the foundation of stable civilization, by decoupling sex from responsibility That sounds like you have a problem with birth control, not prostitution. > - Exploits women, and then once they have grown old and wrinkled leaves them without support of any kind Exploitation can be fixed with labor laws. Being unable to continue when you're old applies to tons of non-sex jobs too, and is better fixed by adding support structures than banning the jobs entirely. > - Can result in a child, which the prostitute is likely not equipped to care for Pretty rarely. I'm skeptical of that being enough to make a job immoral, but among other things there are many types of prostitution that can't result in a child.
      - Georgelemental 4y ago
        > - Weakens the nuclear family, which is the foundation of stable civilization, by decoupling sex from responsibility >> That sounds like you have a problem with birth control, not prostitution. No, birth control doesn't change anything. I wasn't talking about just responsibility to one's child, but also responsibility to one's partner.
        Dylan16807 4y ago
        People have lots of hookups with no responsibilities, with or without the existence of prostitution. I don't think prostitution really makes that worse. And tying sex to marriage causes a lot of issues...
        Georgelemental 4y ago

dragonwriter 4y ago

> Society lets people sell their bodies in more exploitative ways for less money. Marginalizing sex work is done largely to increase the supply of labor (and thereby depress its price) for other forms of exploitation. (Making those who remain sex workers more exploitable by removing access to the resources other workers have is also a motive.)

rgoulter 4y ago

I liked this essay on the topic. I recall it discussing that, while sex work is often pretty shitty, so are the alternatives; and discusses how while society will judge sex work (as exploitative), not much is done to sincerely protect/benefit sex workers, either. https://www.nplusonemag.com/issue-35/essays/cashconsent/ https://www.nplusonemag.com/issue-35/essays/cashconsent/

Georgelemental 4y ago

If factories have exploitative working conditions, pass laws to fix that. Don't legalize more immorality and exploitation

Dylan16807 4y ago
> immorality Your opinion, if you mean there's an inherent difference from other jobs. > exploitation Every new kind of job is "more exploitation" at some level. That's not a good enough reason by itself.
- Georgelemental 4y ago
  Prostitution is immoral because it: - Weakens the nuclear family, which is the foundation of stable civilization, by decoupling sex from responsibility - Exploits women, and then once they have grown old and wrinkled leaves them without support of any kind - Can result in a child, which the prostitute is likely not equipped to care for
  - Dylan16807 4y ago
    > - Weakens the nuclear family, which is the foundation of stable civilization, by decoupling sex from responsibility That sounds like you have a problem with birth control, not prostitution. > - Exploits women, and then once they have grown old and wrinkled leaves them without support of any kind Exploitation can be fixed with labor laws. Being unable to continue when you're old applies to tons of non-sex jobs too, and is better fixed by adding support structures than banning the jobs entirely. > - Can result in a child, which the prostitute is likely not equipped to care for Pretty rarely. I'm skeptical of that being enough to make a job immoral, but among other things there are many types of prostitution that can't result in a child.
    - Georgelemental 4y ago
      > - Weakens the nuclear family, which is the foundation of stable civilization, by decoupling sex from responsibility >> That sounds like you have a problem with birth control, not prostitution. No, birth control doesn't change anything. I wasn't talking about just responsibility to one's child, but also responsibility to one's partner.
      - Dylan16807 4y ago
        People have lots of hookups with no responsibilities, with or without the existence of prostitution. I don't think prostitution really makes that worse. And tying sex to marriage causes a lot of issues...
        Georgelemental 4y ago