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Slovenia already announced that they will replace border checks with checks close to border [1]. Schengen sadly doesn't mean much anymore. [1] - https://www.rt

Slovenia already announced that they will replace border checks with checks close to border [1]. Schengen sadly doesn't mean much anymore. [1] - https://www.rtvslo.si/slovenija/kaj-bo-z-mejnimi-prehodi-po-odpravi-schengenske-meje-med-slovenijo-in-hrvasko/652405 https://www.rtvslo.si/slovenija/kaj-bo-z-mejnimi-prehodi-po-...

hamax 4y ago
There is nothing about moving the border checks in the cited article so I'm not sure what this person is talking about.
- smatija 4y ago
  "Na celotni meji dela 1400 policistov, večina jih bo premeščenih v enote za izravnalne ukrepe, ki bodo selektivne kontrole potnikov, blaga in vozil lahko izvajale v bližini meje in v notranjosti države." Roughly translated: 1400 police officers work at border. Most of them will be moved to other units, which will perform selective checks of passengers, goods and vehicles close to border and in country interior.
  - hamax 4y ago
    So just normal police work.
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  - izacus 4y ago
    Yes, spot checks on the road are how Schengen EU handles border control in general across the board. This means that Slovenia will be aligning the Croatian border checks with all others being done across EU. Don't spread misinformation.
Faaak 4y ago
I'm sorry but this is simply not true. In central EU, you can travel anywhere without any check. And this is huge compared to 20 years ago
- ilikehurdles 4y ago
  Random checks may still occur.
- smatija 4y ago
  Looks like you didn't have to wait at Karavanke tunnel between Slovenia and Austria yet. Selective checks by Austrian police are practically hourly and they cause traffic jams up to Jesenice (10-15km) on regular basic during vacation season.
  - izacus 4y ago
    Austria has been punished by EU court for those extra checks. https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/04/28/can-eu-countries-introduce-border-checks-between-each-other-this-is-what-the-ecj-says https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/04/28/can-eu-countri...
- kgeist 4y ago
  On my first trip from Czech Republic to Germany in 2008 (as a foreign student from Eastern Europe) I was surprised there was German police checking passengers' IDs. I didn't have all the required documents with me because I thought there would be no checks at all because I had a Schengen visa. Fortunately the police officers were pretty cool and left me alone after I explained who I was and why I didn't have all the documents with me.
  - Scoundreller 4y ago
    France was still doing internal border controls at airports "temporarily for 6 months due to exception circumstances" but renews them repeatedly so it's not really temporary. A big waste of time when they do this in Toulouse on a flight from Brussels when you could drive to France faster without a border control. Most of EU has legally done this, but actual application is more patchy: https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies/schengen-borders-and-visa/schengen-area/temporary-reintroduction-border-control_en https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies/schengen-borders-...
Kosirich 4y ago
I was just happy they removed that f...ing barbed wire on border of CRO/SLO Istria which was put up after 2015. Whom ever in Slovenian government decided to do that, is/was a f...ing idiot as they did it just to show how "hard" they are on immigration.
- Scoundreller 4y ago
  They split up the Free Territory of Trieste????
dkjaudyeqooe 4y ago
That's not true. They're merely stating existing law and policy, nothing to do with Croatia.
izacus 4y ago
Checks close to the border is how the rest of Schengen EU handles their borders as well. In practice, you'll just be driving across the border without stopping just like you do when driving from Austria to Slovenia, Germany to Austria or any other border. Don't spread FUD.

hamax 4y ago

There is nothing about moving the border checks in the cited article so I'm not sure what this person is talking about.

smatija 4y ago
"Na celotni meji dela 1400 policistov, večina jih bo premeščenih v enote za izravnalne ukrepe, ki bodo selektivne kontrole potnikov, blaga in vozil lahko izvajale v bližini meje in v notranjosti države." Roughly translated: 1400 police officers work at border. Most of them will be moved to other units, which will perform selective checks of passengers, goods and vehicles close to border and in country interior.
- hamax 4y ago
  So just normal police work.
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- izacus 4y ago
  Yes, spot checks on the road are how Schengen EU handles border control in general across the board. This means that Slovenia will be aligning the Croatian border checks with all others being done across EU. Don't spread misinformation.

Faaak 4y ago

I'm sorry but this is simply not true. In central EU, you can travel anywhere without any check. And this is huge compared to 20 years ago

ilikehurdles 4y ago
Random checks may still occur.
smatija 4y ago
Looks like you didn't have to wait at Karavanke tunnel between Slovenia and Austria yet. Selective checks by Austrian police are practically hourly and they cause traffic jams up to Jesenice (10-15km) on regular basic during vacation season.
- izacus 4y ago
  Austria has been punished by EU court for those extra checks. https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/04/28/can-eu-countries-introduce-border-checks-between-each-other-this-is-what-the-ecj-says https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/04/28/can-eu-countri...
kgeist 4y ago
On my first trip from Czech Republic to Germany in 2008 (as a foreign student from Eastern Europe) I was surprised there was German police checking passengers' IDs. I didn't have all the required documents with me because I thought there would be no checks at all because I had a Schengen visa. Fortunately the police officers were pretty cool and left me alone after I explained who I was and why I didn't have all the documents with me.
- Scoundreller 4y ago
  France was still doing internal border controls at airports "temporarily for 6 months due to exception circumstances" but renews them repeatedly so it's not really temporary. A big waste of time when they do this in Toulouse on a flight from Brussels when you could drive to France faster without a border control. Most of EU has legally done this, but actual application is more patchy: https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies/schengen-borders-and-visa/schengen-area/temporary-reintroduction-border-control_en https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies/schengen-borders-...

Kosirich 4y ago

I was just happy they removed that f...ing barbed wire on border of CRO/SLO Istria which was put up after 2015. Whom ever in Slovenian government decided to do that, is/was a f...ing idiot as they did it just to show how "hard" they are on immigration.

Scoundreller 4y ago
They split up the Free Territory of Trieste????

dkjaudyeqooe 4y ago

That's not true. They're merely stating existing law and policy, nothing to do with Croatia.

izacus 4y ago

Checks close to the border is how the rest of Schengen EU handles their borders as well. In practice, you'll just be driving across the border without stopping just like you do when driving from Austria to Slovenia, Germany to Austria or any other border. Don't spread FUD.