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Now that the evidence seems pretty clear that it reduces your risk of dying from cardiovascular events by ~30%, you should probably just get it every year: htt

Now that the evidence seems pretty clear that it reduces your risk of dying from cardiovascular events by ~30%, you should probably just get it every year: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5256393/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5256393/ It's like bike helmets. I didn't always wear them as a kid because they were uncomfortable, they weren't that effective, and we didn't know how bad head injuries were. But now that they're extremely comfortable, extremely effective, and we know how bad head injuries are, it doesn't really make sense to wear them any less than 100% of the time.

jtbayly 4y ago
100% of the time? I don’t think I’ve ever thought about it, but you’re right. Everybody should be wearing bike helmets all the time to protect against head injuries. Really, we should change the name “bike helmets” to something else if we want people to change their thinking and behavior. Perhaps “personal safety devices”?
- zmgsabst 4y ago
  We should mandate them! If we just stopped one of the 1.5 million brain injuries each year — mandating permanently wearing helmets for the entire population is worth it! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK459300/#_article-31648_s4_ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK459300/#_article-31648...
  - criddell 4y ago
    > If we just stopped one of the 1.5 million brain injuries each year — mandating permanently wearing helmets for the entire population is worth it! I don't think most people would agree with you. If we passed a law in the US mandating no car can be capable of traveling faster than 25 mph, we would save 30,000 lives per year. But we don't do it because driving at higher speeds is worth the trade off in lives.
    - zmgsabst 4y ago
      Yes — I was being sarcastic, by using the logic we heard justifying QALY negative public health measures during the pandemic. I probably shouldn’t have used sarcasm online; it doesn’t translate well.
jimmaswell 4y ago
This claims flus cause heart attacks, so the flu vaccine reduces heart attacks by reducing flus. In my own case I wonder if there'd be any benefit, because I've never gotten the flu despite taking no precautions including shots.
- nradov 4y ago
  Many influenza infections are asymptomatic. You might have been infected at some point without realizing it.
  - t0bia_s 4y ago
    So?
    - dqv 4y ago
      So the greatgrandparent can at best say they have never had symptomatic flu. They cannot confidently say they have never gotten the flu. It is flawed reasoning to use no symptoms of flu = not gotten the flu = not getting vaccine.
      - t0bia_s 4y ago
        This is not medical and vague argument. Symptoms are what you "fight" against by medicine. Nonsymptimatic could be basically anything.
- ysleepy 4y ago
  To stay with the helmet analogy, this sounds like "I won't wear a helmet because I've never been run over."
- bobbyasdfasdf7 4y ago
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jtbayly 4y ago

100% of the time? I don’t think I’ve ever thought about it, but you’re right. Everybody should be wearing bike helmets all the time to protect against head injuries. Really, we should change the name “bike helmets” to something else if we want people to change their thinking and behavior. Perhaps “personal safety devices”?

zmgsabst 4y ago
We should mandate them! If we just stopped one of the 1.5 million brain injuries each year — mandating permanently wearing helmets for the entire population is worth it! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK459300/#_article-31648_s4_ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK459300/#_article-31648...
- criddell 4y ago
  > If we just stopped one of the 1.5 million brain injuries each year — mandating permanently wearing helmets for the entire population is worth it! I don't think most people would agree with you. If we passed a law in the US mandating no car can be capable of traveling faster than 25 mph, we would save 30,000 lives per year. But we don't do it because driving at higher speeds is worth the trade off in lives.
  - zmgsabst 4y ago
    Yes — I was being sarcastic, by using the logic we heard justifying QALY negative public health measures during the pandemic. I probably shouldn’t have used sarcasm online; it doesn’t translate well.

jimmaswell 4y ago

This claims flus cause heart attacks, so the flu vaccine reduces heart attacks by reducing flus. In my own case I wonder if there'd be any benefit, because I've never gotten the flu despite taking no precautions including shots.

nradov 4y ago
Many influenza infections are asymptomatic. You might have been infected at some point without realizing it.
- t0bia_s 4y ago
  So?
  - dqv 4y ago
    So the greatgrandparent can at best say they have never had symptomatic flu. They cannot confidently say they have never gotten the flu. It is flawed reasoning to use no symptoms of flu = not gotten the flu = not getting vaccine.
    - t0bia_s 4y ago
      This is not medical and vague argument. Symptoms are what you "fight" against by medicine. Nonsymptimatic could be basically anything.
ysleepy 4y ago
To stay with the helmet analogy, this sounds like "I won't wear a helmet because I've never been run over."
bobbyasdfasdf7 4y ago
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