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These health posts never turn out good. It always ends up with hackers/geeks arguing how to eat, lose weight, be healthy, etc and so forth. No one agrees. There
by b3b0p 15y ago
These health posts never turn out good. It always ends up with hackers/geeks arguing how to eat, lose weight, be healthy, etc and so forth. No one agrees. There is too much arguing about what is right, wrong, can't be done, you have to eat this... as if nothing is safe to eat now.
Anyway, I don't want to argue or comment that certain foods are evil, carbs are bad and should be avoided, or about anything what Gary Taubes said or published. Everyone is different and different things work for different people. That said, I would like to link a very good post on Reddit with a list of studies that I think people should peruse and possibly reference for the future.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/nv8ip/do_you_have_any_bookmarks_to_pubmedscientific/c3c904n http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/nv8ip/do_you_have_a...
Some highlights that might be of interest and relevance to the OP and comments:
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Calories
Detailed explanation of how calorie counts are derived, analysis of whether low-carb/high-protein diets can provide a metabolic advantage.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8561057 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8561057
"We conclude that a calorie is a calorie."
Similar weight loss with low- or high- carbohydrate diets.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1734671 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1734671
"The results of this study showed that it was energy intake, not nutrient composition, that determined weight loss in response to low-energy diets over a short time period."
Energy intake required to maintain body weight is not affected by wide variation in diet composition.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1734671 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1734671
"Even with extreme changes in the fat-carbohydrate ratio (fat energy varied from 0% to 70% of total intake), there was no detectable evidence of significant variation in energy need as a function of percentage fat intake."
Fat loss depends on energy deficit only, independently of the method for weight loss.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18025815 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18025815
"This study showed that independently of the method for weight loss, the negative energy balance alone is responsible for weight reduction."
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Carb Timing:
Greater Weight Loss and Hormonal Changes After 6 Months Diet With Carbohydrates Eaten Mostly at Dinner
http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/oby201148a.html http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/oby2011...
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Fructose
The bitter truth about fructose alarmism
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/ http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-ab...
Debunking Lustig and the fear of fructose. Health implications of fructose consumption: A review of recent data. No relevant data accounting for a direct link of moderate fructose and health risk markers.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21050460 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21050460
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Glycemic Index
There are large problems with isolating foods cased on the glycemic index/load. First, food is rarely eaten in an isolated way. Fat, protein, fiber count, etc. will all slow down digestion. Second, there is evidence to support that it doesn't even make a difference in weight or blood markers.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17413101 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17413101
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20504977 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20504977
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16629877 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16629877
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17923862 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17923862
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17823436 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17823436
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16177201 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16177201
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12458971 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12458971
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Vegetarians
Vegetarians have a reduced skeletal muscle carnitine transport capacity. Vegetarians have reduced muscle carnitine transport capacity . Carnitine helps fat burning and build bone.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21753065 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21753065
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Edit: formatting and added a couple more links.
- AznHisoka 15y agoI do agree with your general premise. Most health advice is too complex, and it can all be boiled down to: eat whole foods, mostly veggies. If you must eat processed, the less ingredients the better. A lot of the confusion also has to do with people treating their diet as religion. Also, there's a lot of misinformation from the government (the normal Food Pyramid is the worst thing to follow if you need to lose weight), and as a result lots of conflict with popular wisdom. As such, when someone gives advice that is different from the norm, people immediately shoot it down as just a fad.
- shralpmeister 15y agoActually this post exemplifies the problem by hijacking an otherwise helpful thread with a crapload of handpicked pubmed citations.
- b3b0p 15y agoGood point, I didn't mean that at all. I was looking over all the comments and remembered what these types of posts turn into. I had no intention to hi-jack anything. Noted for future postings as something to consider.
- matwood 15y agoI'm glad someone posted this already. It saves a lot of time from having to post individually why Taubes and Lustig are wrong.