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I'd say INFJ would fit the wildcard description more than INTJ. But that's just my own small-sampled observation and me reading a bit about these personality st

by lytefm 4y ago

I'd say INFJ would fit the wildcard description more than INTJ. But that's just my own small-sampled observation and me reading a bit about these personality stereotypes.

still_grokking 4y ago
INFJ doesn't match with the described "wildcard" in any way, as I see it. (And regarding INTJs it's only the "T"). > Introverted: INFJs are energized by time alone Matching a "wildcard"? Rather no. To have many hats you need to be flexible and open with people. Otherwise this won't work out. Introverts don't like "jumping ship". The "wildcard" on the other hand is good at exactly this, and likes it actually. > iNtuitive: INFJs focus on ideas and concepts rather than facts and details Matching a "wildcard"? Quite a strong no. To "get shit done" you need to focus on the practical side of things, facts and details, not the concepts behind them. Also you need a strong "good enough" attitude, something which someone who is concerned with the big picture and the abstract / theoretical ideas behind that is usually not good at. Philosophizing about shit doesn't get shit done. > Feeling: INFJs make decisions based on feelings and values Matching a "wildcard"? Also quite strong no. To get shit done, and be at the same time good in many practical things, you need "thinking" rather than "feeling". Values and feelings (especially of others!) don't mater much when you need to execute an urgent task quickly. It's more like "shot first, ask questions later". Someone who is concerned about the feelings of others would have a hard time to do that. > Judging: INFJs prefer to be planned and organized rather than spontaneous and flexible Matching a "wildcard"? Also quite sure not. The described "wildcard" likes to jump in head first. That's the opposite of "planed and organized". The article even mentions explicitly that "wildcards" are not well organized usually without the help of others. See further: https://www.truity.com/personality-type/INFJ https://www.truity.com/personality-type/INFJ (And compare there with the previously proposed personality types.)
- lytefm 4y ago
  Well, my sample size is small (INFJ: me and a CTO at a different company, INTJ: two colleagues) and my MBTI knowledge based mainly on https://www.16personalities.com https://www.16personalities.com. I'd still say it can fit quite well because: - Introversion: useful for working on the kind of technical tasks outlined in the article instead of preferring to work with other people (apart from the customer success example). - iNtuitive: coming up with out of the box, ad-hoc ideas to solve whatever new challenge is there. > When there’s a need for innovation or a different perspective, people with Intuitive personality types can usually step up and provide a new direction. Practicality can sometimes be overrated, especially when a situation calls for serious change and “coloring outside the lines.” [1] - Feeling: Yeah here I agree that „Thinking” types would suit better according the core theory. But when put in contrast to INTJ, I think that's the dimension which can cause someone to become a wildcard in the first place instead of a specialist: wanting to help everyone else in the company rather than focusing on more clearly confined problems for a long time. > morale killers for these personalities may include strict rules, formal structures, and routine tasks. They may find it especially dispiriting when they’re asked to redo their work, particularly if it’s for a reason that just doesn’t seem valid to them. [...] At times, efficiency may be less of a priority for Advocates than collaborating with and helping colleagues who need a boost. [2] - Jugding: I agree that „Prospecting” suits better according to the theory. So overall, INTP seems to be better suited by theory. But in practice, INFJs are also drawn to the wildcard role and can get quite good at it. [Edit]: Re-reading the article, especially the „wildcards in summary“ part is a very close match with „infjs at work“ (unknown challenges over routines, importance of impact, creative and independent problem solvers) [1] https://www.16personalities.com/articles/energy-intuitive-vs-observant https://www.16personalities.com/articles/energy-intuitive-vs... [2] https://www.16personalities.com/infjs-at-work https://www.16personalities.com/infjs-at-work

by lytefm 4y ago

I'd say INFJ would fit the wildcard description more than INTJ. But that's just my own small-sampled observation and me reading a bit about these personality stereotypes.

still_grokking 4y ago

INFJ doesn't match with the described "wildcard" in any way, as I see it. (And regarding INTJs it's only the "T"). > Introverted: INFJs are energized by time alone Matching a "wildcard"? Rather no. To have many hats you need to be flexible and open with people. Otherwise this won't work out. Introverts don't like "jumping ship". The "wildcard" on the other hand is good at exactly this, and likes it actually. > iNtuitive: INFJs focus on ideas and concepts rather than facts and details Matching a "wildcard"? Quite a strong no. To "get shit done" you need to focus on the practical side of things, facts and details, not the concepts behind them. Also you need a strong "good enough" attitude, something which someone who is concerned with the big picture and the abstract / theoretical ideas behind that is usually not good at. Philosophizing about shit doesn't get shit done. > Feeling: INFJs make decisions based on feelings and values Matching a "wildcard"? Also quite strong no. To get shit done, and be at the same time good in many practical things, you need "thinking" rather than "feeling". Values and feelings (especially of others!) don't mater much when you need to execute an urgent task quickly. It's more like "shot first, ask questions later". Someone who is concerned about the feelings of others would have a hard time to do that. > Judging: INFJs prefer to be planned and organized rather than spontaneous and flexible Matching a "wildcard"? Also quite sure not. The described "wildcard" likes to jump in head first. That's the opposite of "planed and organized". The article even mentions explicitly that "wildcards" are not well organized usually without the help of others. See further: https://www.truity.com/personality-type/INFJ https://www.truity.com/personality-type/INFJ (And compare there with the previously proposed personality types.)

lytefm 4y ago
Well, my sample size is small (INFJ: me and a CTO at a different company, INTJ: two colleagues) and my MBTI knowledge based mainly on https://www.16personalities.com https://www.16personalities.com. I'd still say it can fit quite well because: - Introversion: useful for working on the kind of technical tasks outlined in the article instead of preferring to work with other people (apart from the customer success example). - iNtuitive: coming up with out of the box, ad-hoc ideas to solve whatever new challenge is there. > When there’s a need for innovation or a different perspective, people with Intuitive personality types can usually step up and provide a new direction. Practicality can sometimes be overrated, especially when a situation calls for serious change and “coloring outside the lines.” [1] - Feeling: Yeah here I agree that „Thinking” types would suit better according the core theory. But when put in contrast to INTJ, I think that's the dimension which can cause someone to become a wildcard in the first place instead of a specialist: wanting to help everyone else in the company rather than focusing on more clearly confined problems for a long time. > morale killers for these personalities may include strict rules, formal structures, and routine tasks. They may find it especially dispiriting when they’re asked to redo their work, particularly if it’s for a reason that just doesn’t seem valid to them. [...] At times, efficiency may be less of a priority for Advocates than collaborating with and helping colleagues who need a boost. [2] - Jugding: I agree that „Prospecting” suits better according to the theory. So overall, INTP seems to be better suited by theory. But in practice, INFJs are also drawn to the wildcard role and can get quite good at it. [Edit]: Re-reading the article, especially the „wildcards in summary“ part is a very close match with „infjs at work“ (unknown challenges over routines, importance of impact, creative and independent problem solvers) [1] https://www.16personalities.com/articles/energy-intuitive-vs-observant https://www.16personalities.com/articles/energy-intuitive-vs... [2] https://www.16personalities.com/infjs-at-work https://www.16personalities.com/infjs-at-work