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> passive-aggressive towards minorities like immigrants and LGBT people Are you kidding? he's legitimately full on aggressive to them with his tweets and retwe

> passive-aggressive towards minorities like immigrants and LGBT people Are you kidding? he's legitimately full on aggressive to them with his tweets and retweets. the entire cruelty about pronouns is so baseless it's almost unimaginable. say you were born larry but you didn't like that name so you decided james fit you better so you ask people to call you james. that's it. I don't want to be called larry so call me james because that fits my internal idea of myself more. it's easy just call people what they want to be called. you can call them whatever you want but you're an asshole if you are calling them a different name than what they want to be called and have asked you to. and this isn't even "they are going to ostracize me if i mess it up once" kinda thing... they are aware that people get it wrong just like people getting your name wrong. this is about being deliberately cruel to people you don't think matter. it's absurd.

tourist2d 4y ago
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- skinnymuch 4y ago
  His own daughter never wants to talk to him again and [in]directly called him a bigot. It’s pretty cruel to be such a dick to your child.
  - lostmsu 4y ago
    Or she could have been brainwashed by certain political movements. Hard to tell who's at fault without hearing sides.
    - freejazz 4y ago
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      - lostmsu 4y ago
        I mean without details it is a reasonable alternative. Why would it not be? I have teenagers around, and the effect of woke movement seems excessive on some of them. To me even your comment is an example, because you made a personal attack and did not substantiate it at all.
        jacquesm 4y ago
        > I have teenagers around, and the effect of woke movement seems excessive on some of them. Chances are that they view you similarly. Times are changing, you change with them or you will become obsolete a bit faster than you have to. If I look back across the last 50 years or so that I remember consciously a lot of the stuff that was socially acceptable in the past is no longer socially acceptable, and for very good reasons. I recognize that some of my conditioning can't be undone and realize that future generations will use this new base as their jump-off point. In the beginning, your kids can learn from you. But later on you can learn from your kids.
        lostmsu 4y ago
        That's true, but also not all changes were positive. And I can accept some, but others seem to cross the boundaries the wrong way.
        jacquesm 4y ago
        Think of yourself from the position of the owner of a plantation in the deep South a few hundred years ago. That sentence would apply just the same and it would be just as wrong. Getting older is a fantastic way to find out about what your prejudices and conditioning were. Those changes that really aren't positive will eventually self-correct, and those that really are but that we - oldies - are not quite ready to accept will correct as well, either when we change or minds or a bit later when we die. It's up to you to decide how much of a disconnect you want to accept with younger generations. I have four kids in a large range of ages and these same principles keep on being pressed home to me and I've yet to find one of those exceptions where my 'old self' was in the right. This aspect covers a lot of ground: traditions, discrimination, the whole woke thing, attitudes, music style and so on. Either you stay with the times or you'll be left behind there are no third options afaics. I'm having a relatively easy time to adapt on those things that I don't care about. The dangerous bits are those that I do care about and where I'm simply dead wrong. Typically the things I care more about are those things that I have invested either a lot of time or a lot of my ego in. Best of luck with this, it isn't an easy problem.
- keewee7 4y ago
  American right-wingers should stop pretending they only have a problem with the T in LGBT. In the past few months they have gone full 1950s and are back to accusing gay men of being groomers/pedophiles.
eclipxe 4y ago
Yeah and the bashing of the Twitter ERG swag was just offensive and insensitive. Came across very spiteful and mean spirited.

tourist2d 4y ago

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skinnymuch 4y ago
His own daughter never wants to talk to him again and [in]directly called him a bigot. It’s pretty cruel to be such a dick to your child.
- lostmsu 4y ago
  Or she could have been brainwashed by certain political movements. Hard to tell who's at fault without hearing sides.
  - freejazz 4y ago
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    - lostmsu 4y ago
      I mean without details it is a reasonable alternative. Why would it not be? I have teenagers around, and the effect of woke movement seems excessive on some of them. To me even your comment is an example, because you made a personal attack and did not substantiate it at all.
      - jacquesm 4y ago
        > I have teenagers around, and the effect of woke movement seems excessive on some of them. Chances are that they view you similarly. Times are changing, you change with them or you will become obsolete a bit faster than you have to. If I look back across the last 50 years or so that I remember consciously a lot of the stuff that was socially acceptable in the past is no longer socially acceptable, and for very good reasons. I recognize that some of my conditioning can't be undone and realize that future generations will use this new base as their jump-off point. In the beginning, your kids can learn from you. But later on you can learn from your kids.
        lostmsu 4y ago
        That's true, but also not all changes were positive. And I can accept some, but others seem to cross the boundaries the wrong way.
        jacquesm 4y ago
        Think of yourself from the position of the owner of a plantation in the deep South a few hundred years ago. That sentence would apply just the same and it would be just as wrong. Getting older is a fantastic way to find out about what your prejudices and conditioning were. Those changes that really aren't positive will eventually self-correct, and those that really are but that we - oldies - are not quite ready to accept will correct as well, either when we change or minds or a bit later when we die. It's up to you to decide how much of a disconnect you want to accept with younger generations. I have four kids in a large range of ages and these same principles keep on being pressed home to me and I've yet to find one of those exceptions where my 'old self' was in the right. This aspect covers a lot of ground: traditions, discrimination, the whole woke thing, attitudes, music style and so on. Either you stay with the times or you'll be left behind there are no third options afaics. I'm having a relatively easy time to adapt on those things that I don't care about. The dangerous bits are those that I do care about and where I'm simply dead wrong. Typically the things I care more about are those things that I have invested either a lot of time or a lot of my ego in. Best of luck with this, it isn't an easy problem.
keewee7 4y ago
American right-wingers should stop pretending they only have a problem with the T in LGBT. In the past few months they have gone full 1950s and are back to accusing gay men of being groomers/pedophiles.

eclipxe 4y ago

Yeah and the bashing of the Twitter ERG swag was just offensive and insensitive. Came across very spiteful and mean spirited.