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Putin gives eight gold rings to presidents of CIS countries, keeps ninth
- JumpinJack_Cash 4y ago'Are we the baddies?' vibes
- 11235813213455 4y agoWar is baddy, but I feel like there's something above, something where any living being emitting 10 equivalent tonnes of CO2 per year or more is an accidental baddy
- yakshaving_jgt 4y agoSorry, just to clarify, your point is that genocide is fine because other countries are harming the environment?
- 11235813213455 4y agoI said war is bad and harming the environment is worse, no relationships between the 2, but the western "good" people are not so good Pollution is already causing 10 million deaths/year and this gets worse. I live near a road, and have snow-like dust in my apartment every day from pollution, this can't be good in the lungs. Most people in developed countries, including Russia, have a footprint way too high, over 6T CO2 year, and this is the reason we're all unfortunately heading into trouble and future environmental wars.
- yakshaving_jgt 4y agoIf there is no relation between the two, then what are you looking to achieve with your comment? Because what you're doing sounds an awful lot like whataboutism[0], which suggests tacit defence on your part of the russian federation's terrorism and genocide. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
- 11235813213455 4y agoThe initial comment is "Are we the baddies?" (compared to pro-russian people) I'm just saying it's not as simple as 0 or 1 absolutely no defense of any kind of violence, terrorism and any war, that's more your perception
- yakshaving_jgt 4y agoThe initial comment is a reference to a comedy sketch by David Mitchell and Robert Webb. In the sketch, it is two Nazi soldiers discussing the idea that they might be on the wrong side of history. So no, this is not are Westerners "baddies" compared to pro-russian people. > I'm just saying it's not as simple as 0 or 1 Wow. Political topics have nuance. Thank you for your deep, invaluable insight. Where would we be without your Russell Brand-esque hey bro, open your mind because there are complexities in real life style ponderings.
- 11235813213455 4y agoSo he said "Are we the baddies" speaking as an imaginary russian soldier? If so, sorry I misunderstood, thought he said it as a westerner
- themodelplumber 4y agoHmmm, speaking of rings, this Putin person seems to like rings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggqb4wUpa5w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggqb4wUpa5w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCgi7roudzc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCgi7roudzc
- fxtentacle 4y agogreat comment: "How did you manage to turn a story that takes Robert Kraft 15 seconds to tell into a 9 minute video?"
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- fractallyte 4y agoThis just digs Russia deeper into Lord of the Rings meme territory, particularly considering that their troops are already popularly referred to as 'orcs', and Russia itself as 'Mordor'. So now we have nine rings of power, and one ring to rule them all...
- yreg 4y agoPutin so far forged only 8 Rings of Power + the Ruling Ring.
- fractallyte 4y agoYes, you're right - I meant nine rings altogether, with one of being the ruling ring.
- anigbrowl 4y agoBeing feared isn't as nice as being loved, but its a lot more reliable if your goal is power.
- colechristensen 4y agoEh, for a while, but clearly long term it seems to tend to not work out.
- sbuttgereit 4y agoWorking pretty good in North Korea.
- colechristensen 4y agoNot really, fear of the ruler has little to do with the longevity of dprk. Support and protection by China are the only reason that government still exists. “Be useful to / shameful if you fail” to a much more powerful entity is more like it when it comes to “ways to power”.
- bobowzki 4y agoIs this a Russian tradition or something new?
- popilewiz 4y ago[dead]
- legerdemain 4y agoTrump's magical glowing orb from 2017: https://twitter.com/billkristol/status/866398789392793600 https://twitter.com/billkristol/status/866398789392793600
- rolph 4y agothats the missing palantir !
- selimthegrim 4y agoWell he still has the Super Bowl ring he stole from Robert Kraft too
- dmitryminkovsky 4y agoI think about this all the time. That should be part of the final peace settlement.
- rzazueta 4y agoThis just... WAAAAAAY too on the nose...
- yb303 4y agoIn the original story they became Nazgûl after receiving the rings
- moffkalast 4y agoPerhaps the real Nazgûl were the friends we made along the way.
- kova12 4y agoRings alone are not enough to recreate Mordor. IIRC, that requires some actual magic.
- 082349872349872 4y agoNo magic needed*; ring is MacGuffin: > The Ring itself is a luxurious ornament, but powerless, crafted by the Nazgûl (a group of ancient scientists and philosophers who take turns as the Nine to guide Mordor through its industrialization) to distract Gandalf and the Elves while Mordor built up its army. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Ringbearer#Plot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Ringbearer#Plot (compare https://allpoetry.com/The-Persian-Version https://allpoetry.com/The-Persian-Version ) * if one doesn't read tale by reactionary JRRT, that or otherwise.
- justin66 4y agothe Nazgûl (a group of ancient scientists and philosophers who take turns as the Nine to guide Mordor through its industrialization) Wow, that sounds like fiction for readers who might have complained that Christopher Tolkien's nth collection of half-baked unfinished tales was not boring enough.
- rippercushions 4y agoIt's freely available and worth a read. While it's unlikely to see the average teen's heart on fire, most HN readers will definitely get a kick out of it.
- yreg 4y agoWe have an anti-Russian-government song that says You don't know your place and where you belong, you mess with Poland, Finland, Czechoslovakia Army of bandits and a band of orcs, meanwhile your own country looks like Mordor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAKa4w2jv9w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAKa4w2jv9w
- kayodelycaon 4y agoIs this real? Or a parody?
- 082349872349872 4y agoReal. Would you believe TASS? https://tass.com/politics/1556455 https://tass.com/politics/1556455
- curiousgal 4y agoWhy didn't the US just use eagles instead of arming Ukraine?
- imwillofficial 4y agoThat would be the most American thing ever
- moffkalast 4y agoF-15 Eagles that is.
- alephnan 4y agoThree Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky, Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone, Nine for Mortal Men, doomed to die, One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
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- seydor 4y agoLike, you're my bitches now? I guess they know that already
- _Algernon_ 4y ago>~~Nine~~Eigth for Mortal Men doomed to die, >One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne >In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie. >One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, >One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them >In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
- MonkeyClub 4y agoHypernormalisation for the win.
- europeanguy 4y agoUnintentionally, this exemplifies why Russia will always be a second-rate power. For it's internal politicking it has to reference art (Tolkien) from the English speaking world. This is a self-own.
- BMc2020 4y agoIt will interesting to see who dares to appear in public without their ring.
- minusf 4y agothe whole putin saga reminds more of wizards (1977) than lord of the rings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizards_(film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizards_(film)
- ztrtr 4y agoCan people from the periphery still get power in Russia? In the Soviet Union, many did: Kaganovich, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Chernenko, Gorbachev were from Ukraine or had Ukrainian ties. Stalin, Beria, Putin were/are from Georgia or had Georgian ties.
- jjtheblunt 4y agoisn't Putin from Petrograd?
- allarm 4y agoLeningrad to be precise. And it’s hardly a peripheral city.
- moffkalast 4y agoVladimir went down to Georgia, he was lookin for some land to steal, he was in a bind cause he was way behind as he was starting world war three
- strangattractor 4y agoMore like the GodFather rather than Lord of the Rings. https://www.pinterest.com/pin/224124518925923884/ https://www.pinterest.com/pin/224124518925923884/
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- rolph 4y agoa famous gift from soviet union. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device) these rings should bear a close examination.
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- voidee 4y agohttps://m.soundcloud.com/bwalker/time-travelin-trump https://m.soundcloud.com/bwalker/time-travelin-trump
- mepian 4y agoWhy is this post flagged?