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Hindsight is 20/20. We didn’t know anything about Covid in the early months and the CDC was following plans designed to counter something closer to the 1917 Spa

Hindsight is 20/20. We didn’t know anything about Covid in the early months and the CDC was following plans designed to counter something closer to the 1917 Spanish Flu. We should all be grateful they scared the crap out of us. What if a variant started killing kids? What if a variant started killing 25-35 year olds? Read history. That’s what happened when the Spanish Flu came around for a second swing. It wasn’t about being accurate. It was intentionally about over-reacting because we just didn’t know enough.

bigtex 4y ago
We knew in March 26, 2020 it was not the Spanish flu because the data from the cruise ship diamond princess came back and the cfr was 1.1%. This was a shipped filled with the most vulnerable, obese people over 65. We should have never closed schools or lockdown in the USA. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00885-w https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00885-w
- cbsmith 4y ago
  I think you're missing the aspect of Spanish flu that presents the threat. CFR doesn't define the threat.
ralusek 4y ago
I'm sorry but this is nonsense. No clarity of hindsight is required to realize that the conversations regarding COVID were not good faith explorations of the facts or the risks. Decisions were made very crudely in order to determine the proper course of action, and virtually all necessary mechanisms for continuously evaluating what we knew or were doing were forcefully marginalized. If you were somebody genuinely interested in understanding the pandemic, you immediately found that virtually all the sane conversations you were looking for were taking place in the same fringes as the places where lunatic conspiracy theorists were, because they were the only places that tolerated any discussion whatsoever.
maskil 4y ago
That may have been the case in the very beginning, but it certainly evolved into let's scare the crap out of people to achieve whatever outcome we want.
- the_erd 4y ago
  What outcome is that, exactly?
at_a_remove 4y ago
That's an interesting idea, but it completely falls apart if one remembers the "don't buy masks" phase of the CDC's efforts.
- spikeagally 4y ago
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nonethewiser 4y ago
Not just hindsight. Many people came to the same conclusion in the moment.
hstan4 4y ago
Doesn’t sound to you like hindsight is 20/20. Sounds like you’d want to take the exact same approach next time something like this happens
hintymad 4y ago
I don't think the key is to blame CDC or Fauci or the government. The key is that people should be able to examine their numbers, critique their analysis, and challenge their policies, just like people should do to any doctrine. Yet Twitter staff, at least some of them, turned such normal debates into political issues, and tried every way to ban the people or villainize them.

bigtex 4y ago

We knew in March 26, 2020 it was not the Spanish flu because the data from the cruise ship diamond princess came back and the cfr was 1.1%. This was a shipped filled with the most vulnerable, obese people over 65. We should have never closed schools or lockdown in the USA. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00885-w https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00885-w

cbsmith 4y ago
I think you're missing the aspect of Spanish flu that presents the threat. CFR doesn't define the threat.

ralusek 4y ago

I'm sorry but this is nonsense. No clarity of hindsight is required to realize that the conversations regarding COVID were not good faith explorations of the facts or the risks. Decisions were made very crudely in order to determine the proper course of action, and virtually all necessary mechanisms for continuously evaluating what we knew or were doing were forcefully marginalized. If you were somebody genuinely interested in understanding the pandemic, you immediately found that virtually all the sane conversations you were looking for were taking place in the same fringes as the places where lunatic conspiracy theorists were, because they were the only places that tolerated any discussion whatsoever.

maskil 4y ago

That may have been the case in the very beginning, but it certainly evolved into let's scare the crap out of people to achieve whatever outcome we want.

the_erd 4y ago
What outcome is that, exactly?

at_a_remove 4y ago

That's an interesting idea, but it completely falls apart if one remembers the "don't buy masks" phase of the CDC's efforts.

spikeagally 4y ago
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nonethewiser 4y ago

Not just hindsight. Many people came to the same conclusion in the moment.

hstan4 4y ago

Doesn’t sound to you like hindsight is 20/20. Sounds like you’d want to take the exact same approach next time something like this happens

hintymad 4y ago

I don't think the key is to blame CDC or Fauci or the government. The key is that people should be able to examine their numbers, critique their analysis, and challenge their policies, just like people should do to any doctrine. Yet Twitter staff, at least some of them, turned such normal debates into political issues, and tried every way to ban the people or villainize them.