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> So I pirate the movie (please don't arrest me, it's google's fault) I really like the frank tone of the article and I wish people in general would just write

• yellow_lead 4y ago
  Even a hardcore pirate like me tried to do the right thing when it comes to music - I got Spotify. But when I moved to Taiwan, I tried to switch my payment location to get regional pricing and they refuse to accept my Taiwan debit card. Now I pirate music or use Vanced (YouTube).
  • RockRobotRock 4y ago
    Between iTunes and Bandcamp, it's very easy to buy DRM free music (most of the time). In the streaming era, its basically impossible to buy TV shows and movies without DRM.
    • leehuffman 4y ago
      SO EASY. Thank you. Daps up.
    • codethief 4y ago
      > Between iTunes and Bandcamp …and, if I may add, shops like https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/shop https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/shop , which fill the gap of providing HQ downloads of popular music that cannot be found on Bandcamp. I have to admit I haven't used them in years (ever since I got a Spotify account) but they used to be my go-to place for purchasing FLACs.
    • cassianoleal 4y ago
      Are all purchases on iTunes DRM free?
      • RockRobotRock 4y ago
        All music is.
  • philliphaydon 4y ago
    I live in Taiwan but my CC is from Singapore. I want to get HBO but I can't because I don't have a Taiwan CC. But I can sign up for HBO Singapore but I can't use it in Taiwan... Soooo I'm subjected to pirating HBO content. Sometimes I wonder if these companies actually want to make money because they make it so far for us to give them money.
    • RedShift1 4y ago
      I've never ever understood geoblocking. What kind of company says no to someone wanting to purchase their products? They are literally throwing away money.
      • prirun 4y ago
        Not defending it, but I think it's a thing because media companies want to price things according to what a country/region can afford. So if they price something cheaper for Thailand, they don't want it to work in the US. Same as drug companies.
      • OrangeMusic 4y ago
        This is just one example I know of, but in France they have laws regarding when movies are available to stream, in order to regulate competition with the movie theaters. This means that movies available in the US are often not (yet) available in France. I can imagine media companies having to deal with such rules for all countries being a nightmare to implement and then just open in the US.
      • dzhiurgis 4y ago
        Netflix has this nuanced aspect with languages. There's no way to filter films by: * non english (but english subs) * actual language you understand Plus subs selection is pathetic - Apple TV shines here, but it's not perfect.
  • satvikchoudhary 4y ago
    Is Vance still working?
    • charcircuit 4y ago
      Yes. I would recommend migrating to it's successor revanced though.
    • recrof 4y ago
      look up ReVanced
    • astkaasa 4y ago
      check revanced, it works just fine with specific version
  • PartiallyTyped 4y ago
    I tried doing the right thing via Spotify / Apple Music / Youtube Music. All of them have issues that piracy just doesn't. Especially youtube music, sure i have access to otherwise "unpublished content" (looking at you Watsky refusing to put Wounded Healer on a streaming platform). But in a 3 hour flight I found myself iterating through all the songs I could download via the app. For spotify, why do I have to go through all the hassle to explain to a person why tf I want my account closed? Why are you not giving me the tools to manage my library better? Why do I have to manually delete every single one song instead of group select or even purging everything? I am not saying I am pirating, but I am not saying that it's a thing I will never do again. The industry should get their shit together and build something that works for the customers (us), and smaller artists as well (cough spotify cough).
  • leehuffman 4y ago
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    • dmantis 4y ago
      Not the guy you ask, but for me, I just want convenient digital thing on my laptop I actually own, not rent. I live in 2022 and don't want that physical crap. I would have no problem to pay for DRM-free and location-independent stuff, but all this thing with "rights owners", "you can't hear that in this location", "you can't download it to listen offline and locally" is a total bullshit. I don't care what some lawman or government thinks. I also don't care about 5$ per month, that's nothing. But for my money, for any amount, I expect some respect and not this "money cow" attitude. If artists want to get money from people like me, they probably should release their works under some more ethical distribution systems, which actually respect their customers wherever they live and whatever way to listen they prefer.
      • leehuffman 4y ago
        > Not the guy you ask, but for me, I just want convenient digital thing on my laptop I actually own, not rent. I live in 2022 and don't want that physical crap. Welp I got you bruh bruh... > I would have no problem to pay for DRM-free and location-independent stuff, but all this thing with "rights owners", "you can't hear that in this location", "you can't download it to listen offline and locally" is a total bullshit. Give me your two favorite artists and I'll send you their latest releases in lossless ripped form after I cop their physical records. You pay me the cost of the physical medium (which I'll immediately turn around and go donate to the public library for others to enjoy) and I'll fully eat S&H etc aka any dollar amount over the cost of said physical medium. That fits your description of 'no problem to pay', yeah? > I don't care what some lawman or government thinks. I also don't care about 5$ per month, that's nothing. But for my money, for any amount, I expect some respect and not this "money cow" attitude. Yes all the artists I know could definitely be placed in one of your three categories; lawmen, government entities, and/or money cows. That certainly doesn't drive home my point that you're all disconnected & wildly removed from reality.
  • JodieBenitez 4y ago
    > Even a hardcore pirate like me tried to do the right thing when it comes to music - I got Spotify. This is not the right thing to do. Spotify is peanuts to artists. If you want to do the right thing, buy music at Bandcamp: you get files you can keep forever and artists get a fair share of your money.
    • yellow_lead 4y ago
      The artists I listen to don't all sell on bandcamp (most don't).
      • JodieBenitez 4y ago
        You're the lucky one, because there's a whole universe for you to discover ;-)
    • verisimi 4y ago
      Yes you're taking peanuts from the artists and sacks of peanuts from the music corporations, that provide.. er, promotion, a contract, and own the rights to the music the artist created. Although it is true artists do get something, the lion's share goes to the music corporation.
      • piva00 4y ago
        That's the part about passion industries people don't understand: the distribution side doesn't have much power to structure the payment to artists, it's all in control of the publishers (labels/movie studios/game publishers) who control a large catalogue of works and have immense leverage to negotiate all this bullshit on geo-locked content, royalties' payments to the creators, etc. Ranting about Spotify's, Apple Music's, Tidal's payments to the artists or region-locking IP is a smoke-and-mirrors move from major labels, they are the ones forcing these practices unto the distributors/streaming services.
    • comprev 4y ago
      Bandcampers forget the platform is for underground artists and those not tied by contract to the heavyweight labels. You'll never see mainstream pop artists on there. I love to promote Bandcamp where possible but have to remember what it can offer to "Average Joe"
  • BbzzbB 4y ago
    Works both ways tho. I remade my Tinder account from the Vietnamese phone number I had, have used my Canadian credit card and changed my account's phone to my Canadian one (ported to VoIP) after 3-4 weeks, but I still get billed in động for their top subscription. You could remake your Spotify account. Alternatively, make a family account and share it with 5 more members. Works out to just 3$/month (Canadian!) for us. Wonder what it would work out to from a cheaper geolocation.
    • yellow_lead 4y ago
      I might try that but I have a lot of data already on my spotify account. The Spotify support tried to help me, escalated like four times, told me to talk to my bank (my card works on other sites and my bank said there should be no issues), etc. So I think it may not even work on a new account.
    • notpushkin 4y ago
      It would work. But it would still be piracy: their sublicense of content to you is likely conditional on you not doing any shenanigans to get another region's pricing. So use it if you want to get recommendations, or don't want to bother managing your library, or want to give some pennies on a dollar to the actual artists. But remember, you're still a pirate. Be proud of it. Yarr! IANAL
  • pwinnski 4y ago
    I know a number of "hardcore pirates" who pay for nearly every streaming service you can imagine, but never use the services. Instead they provide some sort of "moral cover" for their piracy. Whatever works for them, I guess.
• 22289d 4y ago
  I don't pirate for similar reasons. I just like the UX better. I like all these apps on my tv full of content. Until like 2015 pirating was the better UX so I did that. But now it's a pain in the ass relative to what streaming offers. I always thought if they want me to pay, they gotta make it worth it. And they have. So they get my money.
  • TylerE 4y ago
    Ditto, although on a marginally earlier schedule. Not having to worry about being a data hoarder, with all the sorting, renaming, categorization, archiving etc is incredibly liberating. I think of all the time I spent on an ancient single core machine ripping CDs (or downloading for OG Napster on dialup), many of which I probably never even listened to, and just shake my head.
  • tluyben2 4y ago
    > And they have. So they get my money. Sure, as long as that holds. I like the music services as they have all the weird stuff I listen to. I like the book services as they have all the weird stuff I read. But movies/tvshows are a different ballgame; if i'm watching some series or saw some trailer and I want to see it but it doesn't appear in the netflix/hbo/disney/apple in my country, I am not going to wait or not watch it at all. There are too often new shows that seem interesting (sure, they hardly ever actually are) but are anglo-saxon countries or US only. Then, in the days of yore, Netflix used to have old movies/shows and people used to hate that. I did not, but they are mostly gone. Why would they not stock ancient content from the 40s-80s? Maybe they do in the US, but here it's almost completely gone.
    • cableshaft 4y ago
      It's almost completely gone in the US on Netflix also. I've had better luck watching older movies on Youtube 'Free with Ads' service, especially 80s and 90s movies, than I've had on Netflix. And there's no ads if you get Youtube's premium service (I currently don't, but don't mind the ads). Currently on there is Wrongfully Accused (funny Leslie Nielsen movie), Glengarry Glen Ross, Robocop (1987), Ghost in the Shell, The Mask, License to Drive, The Neverending Story, Tombstone, Leon The Professonal, The Amityville Horror, Over the Top (some Stallone movie), Miracle on 34th Street, Con Air, Edward Scissorhands, Gone Fishin', Look Who's Talking, While You Were Sleeping, The Craft, Red Dawn, So I Married an Axe Murderer, Secret of Nimh, Killer Klowns from Outer Space, Revenge of the Pink Panther, Mad Max, Das Boot, Little Shop of Horrors, Hackers, Children of the Corn, Death on the Nile (1978 version, remade recently), Delirious, Rock-a-Doodle, The Big Boss (Bruce Lee, 1971), Babes in Toyland, Samson an Delilah (1950), The Grapes of Wrath (1940), The Seven Year Itch (Marilyn Monroe, 1955) .... okay, I'm just going to stop now, but it keeps going, I'm only a third of the way though the list. Also it's newer, but one of my favorite movies is currently free with ads on there: Kung Fu Hustle, a hilarious and ridiculous spectacle with excellent choreography. Only downside is you never know how long they'll stay on there, it doesn't seem to be as long as other services, so you kind of need to check the list often and watch the ones you want to see while they're on there. I think I had a similar comment on here six months ago and the list I had then would have been completely different.
• nextlevelwizard 4y ago
  Hope you are at least buying CDs otherwise you are just making excuses to take stuff for free
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• linuxandrew 4y ago
  Exactly this. MSN Music screwed me over when they shut down and made the .m4p DRM music files unplayable. I redownloaded all of the music via BitTorrent and persisted to this day.
• Hamuko 4y ago
  >spytify automatically records mp3 files with metadata tags while you personally use Spotify I prefer pirating my music off YouTube. yt-dlp -f bestaudio https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=XXX This nets you a bunch of *.webm files with Opus data inside them. YouTube's bestaudio is usually about 130 kbs Opus, which should be close to transparent. You can then use mkvextract to turn them into more usable *.opus files. mkvextract input.webm tracks 0:output.opus The downside is that you need to tag your downloads manually after that. It's less of a problem for me since I use beets for my music library, but can be a pain if you don't have an automatic way of doing it.
  • MikusR 4y ago
    add -x to yt-dlp to directly remux to .opus and --add-metadata to write tags.
  • usui 4y ago
    Isn't the second extraction unnecessary? I just tried this command and it worked, with metadata yt-dlp --output "%(upload_date)s ---- %(artist)s --- %(title)s.%(ext)s" --add-metadata --embed-thumbnail --audio-format opus --format bestaudio --remux-video opus "https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=0oAAlssVwEw https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=0oAAlssVwEw"
    • Hamuko 4y ago
      Huh, didn't even notice that yt-dlp can do it automatically. Thanks.
      • usui 4y ago
        Happy New Year!
• dxuh 4y ago
  Music and movies are very, very different. While there is no site I know of that provides purchase of DRM free downloads of popular movies, there are many alternatives for music. I purchase most of the music I like from Bandcamp and I think even Amazon allows purchase of DRM free downloadable music. I feel ZERO regrets about pirating movies, because I am not given any option worth purchasing, but I would feel bad pirating music and I think you should probably too, if you could afford it.
  • plaguepilled 4y ago
    Not all music is available on Bandcamp or Amazon - the availability from what I have seen is quite poor. Its the same issue but the can has been kicked down the road for music a little.
    • dxuh 4y ago
      Of course if you searched and you could not find it, then I agree it's perfectly fine to pirate as well.
• MikusR 4y ago
  That spy-spotify has some bs claims. Spotify uses ogg vorbis so if the output of the app is an mp3 there is a quality loss.
• veltas 4y ago
  I ask for open mindedness that I bring religion here, I feel it necessary to discuss this question of ethics/morality: "Who gives a fuck?" I quote Mark 12:15. > But, knowing their hypocrisy, he said to them, “Why put me to the test? Bring me a denarius and let me look at it.” And they brought one. And he said to them, “Whose likeness and inscription is this?” They said to him, “Caesar’s.” Jesus said to them, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” And they marveled at him. This is pretty much the reason I don't pirate. I wasn't a Christian before. I first thought "if everyone else pays, why should I get it for free?". But eventually I came to question the concept of personal sharing of media being controlled by the state, and just gave in to 'piracy' (a silly name for the act). I suppose I also generally became jaded on social conscientiousness. More recently I became a Christian and now I don't 'pirate' at all. It's because the above passage in my opinion can be applied to media (although it's not literally what was said, I think the rationale still works): most of the people who make such media don't approve of me 'pirating'. Therefore if I engage in it, which I actually have a choice about, rather than with the currency which frankly is mandatory for most people, then surely I owe them their price. And if I don't have a way to pay for it then I don't have any more right to it. Respectfully, you act as if your hand is forced here, but you don't actually need to consume the media, you just want to.
  • nine_k 4y ago
    With all due respect, the OP has bought the movie legitimately. He has paid for it. It was legally his. It was Google's technical ineptitude that did not allow him to use his legitimately bought movie, which had been readily available before. So he obtained an illegally made copy of the movie which he had legally obtained before, which he had every right to keep in his possession, formally. I don't see anyone's interests being hurt by this, including financial interests, or any moral wrong done.
    • veltas 4y ago
      I was addressing the commenter who said they just pirate. I think the article is another matter.
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• encryptluks2 4y ago
  It's full of inaccuracies and hyperbole. It isn't frank, it is exaggerated to illicit a response. For example, > So I go to google play store and go through the 50,000 security verifications. And this comment: > Google is contributing to the destruction of the concept of ownership, as are many services of the modern age. Pretty much any service that uses DRM. There is a lot to be upset with Google about, but this is like someone ranting that they can't figure out how to use a Google device. If you don't like it then buy a portable blu-ray or DVD player, or convert the DVD and blu-ray yourself to a digital format without DRM.
  • ryantgtg 4y ago
    The article doesn’t express that Google is _solely_ responsible for the destruction of the concept of ownership. That statement isn’t inaccurate. It’s perfectly reasonable to be bothered by the fact that their setup worked fine for years and then stopped working for no good reason. It sounds like you’ve “heard it before” and don’t care to hear it again. Remember that this is grandma’s setup. Sure, there are alternative paths for young bucks like us, but for others they simply want to “buy” something and then play it at will. This is a story about Google depriving a dying grandma of one of her last joys.
    • encryptluks2 4y ago
      I am not under the impression that is what happened here. It sounds like a DRM sucks period rant that someone uses Google as a scapegoat and encourages like-minded Google haters to air their grievances about wanting to quit Google. Like I said, there are a lot of reasons to dislike Google but this post sounds like a misguided complaint. The issue likely could have been solved and maybe entirely be attributed to user error, but it didn't matter.
      • P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
        you're free to interpret it that way, but that certainly wasn't my interpretation. I wonder if it's a generational thing where those of us who are old enough to remember when streaming wasn't a thing don't find it acceptable because companies didn't used to be able to treat us this way. Once the physical media was in our hands it was ours and if it randomly stopped working it was generally duo to a physical problem we had a hand in.
• notpushkin 4y ago
  > Spytify records the same quality that Spotify outputs But it's still doing bad transcoding. It's like taking a screenshot of a JPEG photo: if you save it, you end up with more artifacts. I'd just use one of the numerous Deezer downloaders – they decrypt the actual audio stream, and the input quality is just as good.
  • usui 4y ago
    Yes that's a fair criticism. I still want to use Spotify for discovery, and I'm not an audiophile, so the quality ends up being sufficient for me.
    • notpushkin 4y ago
      Yeah of course, if it suits you then I'm happy for you! It's just that the author rants about other tools downloading music from YouTube (which is also fair criticism of course), and then goes on and does the thing that's just as bad (or so says the audiophile zealot inside me). (FWIW, there were some tools that could rip out the exact Ogg stream as used by Spotify, but I don't think they're working now.)
      • usui 4y ago
        Yes to be honest though going to greater lengths to extract high quality audio reaches a personal point where I'd rather try searching for the artist on Bandcamp or SoundCloud to buy lossless/high-quality audio, although everyone has a different personal point and the avenues in which you can buy good audio from the artist may not always exist. My thought process goes as: "If I want good audio quality, that means I must think the artist is pretty good, ergo I should definitely try buying it in file format somehow". Thanks for clarifying that point about spytify.
  • comprev 4y ago
    I have no issue in paying the premium Deezer subscription with access to FLAC (16/44) files to build up my DJ-friendly music archive. I never play out/stream/upload mixes so audio only leaves the house if I save a mix on my phone for a long bike ride or run. Many artists get a healthy chunk of my cash for physical media (vinyl) via Bandcamp too.
• userbinator 4y ago
  I really like the frank tone of the article and I wish people in general would just write unabashedly more often when it comes to stuff like this. I still remember when not pirating would get you strange reactions, and it was considered polite to share (on a USB drive or similar) the media you had recently consumed; some PMPs even had a USB host mode, which let users exchange files with others easily, and P2P was also far more popular. Here's some dated-but-related references from that era: https://xkcd.com/488/ https://xkcd.com/488/ https://i.imgur.com/9l9nc.png https://i.imgur.com/9l9nc.png
  • ce4 4y ago
    And https://www.theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones https://www.theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones
  • teddyh 4y ago
    https://www.little-gamers.com/2001/12/13/372 https://www.little-gamers.com/2001/12/13/372
• gorgoiler 4y ago
  If you pirate something for which you’ve already bought a license, is it even pirating? If the license is for a particular set of bits then unless you are pirating those exact bits I guess so. You licensed Lemonade.drm.mp4 so downloading Lemonade.mp3 is pirating. But then again it’s not pirating to re encode your audio files once you’ve downloaded them. So I feel more confident in saying it’s not the bits that are licensed, it’s the work itself. The act of downloading it from piratewarez.example.com feels fishy, but if you download it from musicbackups.example.com — a hypothetical site that says you should not download copies of files unless you have bought a license for them in the past — then it starts to feel like a more interesting gray area. You’ve licensed a digital copy of the work, so why is it wrong to get a copy of it from some place else? The person distributing the work is probably in hot water, but you shouldn’t be, as long as you have the receipt for the original purchase and/or a copy of the license. For me, the big one here is ebooks. If I buy a physical copy of a book then as far as I’m concerned I’ve bought the license to the work as well as that particular piece of physical media. I don’t lose sleep about pirating the ebook version as well.
  • deelly 4y ago
    > for which you’ve already bought a license... Bought a temporary license to use/read/watch. Its not like you bought a digital file. Nope.
  • djhworld 4y ago
    IANAL but I think the license you buy from google play or apple or whatever is not a license for the content, it's a license to access the content from the provider through a specific player/app. So getting content from musicbackups dot com or whatever would not be a transferable right or gray area. People will do it anyway though
    • danbulant 4y ago
      Not sure about US, but for example in Czechia, you can download any content legally - as long as you don't share it, it's fine. Torrents do share it though, so that is a gray area. You also have a right to make a personal backup/copy of the content, again, as long as you don't share that copy (projecting for multiple people is also sharing in this context).
• bardan 4y ago
  Unless you are buying physical media, tbe only way you can actually own something today is to pirate it.
  • zirgs 4y ago
    Sites like GOG provide you with DRM free installers of all their games - you can backup those wherever you want.
• amelius 4y ago
  Spotify is still great for discovering music, though.
  • fsflover 4y ago
    Bandcamp does it for me, too.
• thiht 4y ago
  I subscribe to 4 different platforms (Netflix, Prime Video, Disney+ and Crunchyroll) and every fucking time I want to watch a specific movie it’s not on any of these. Last week I wanted to watch Harry Potter which I know was on Netflix and/or Prime Video at some point, now it’s not available anywhere. So I went back to piracy. 2023 will be the year of Plex+NAS for me because I can’t justify paying for so many subscriptions if there’s not even the things I want to watch when I want it. I’ll just keep Crunchyroll as it’s giving me the best value so far.
  • tzs 4y ago
    > Last week I wanted to watch Harry Potter which I know was on Netflix and/or Prime Video at some point, now it’s not available anywhere. It's on Peacock Premium and HBO Max.
    • thiht 4y ago
      Not available in Europe. Also there’s no way I’m paying for 1 more service. Even if I subscribed to all of them, it passed the point where it’s annoying to check one by one where I can find what I want to watch. It’s time for a meta service in front of all the others, but there’s no way this is coming in the 5 years. At some point, Netflix was simpler than piracy. Now piracy is simple again.
      • spopejoy 4y ago
        Not a plug, but roku's search makes finding a stream incredibly easy. More than once I've signed up for a sub on the spot because it had what I was looking for. Not a plug because there are many things to dislike about roku, above all the ads on the homescreen. But that search ... there's nothing else like it.
• P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
  I don't buy games from online unless there's no other alternative and I don't care. Usually it's some small, silly game I'm playing with my gf. But for everything _I_ want, it's physical medium, only. If sony or nintendo ever release a console that has no ability to use physical media, I will not purchase it. I say this because I believe nintendo has a version of the switch that has no ability to play physical media. I'm ok with different versions like that, I'm not ok with not being able to purchase a version that uses physical media. Same with music, I have a huge music collection. A lot of them are pirated, many of them are FLAC rips from physical discs. The _ONE_ exception I have to this is movies on Amazon. I'm not a huge movie/television guy but I _DO_ consume most of that type of media via Amazon Prime and Netflix. If something goes away I generally don't care, and if I _DO_ care I either already have physical copies or I know I can purchase them. So I will sometimes purchase this type of media on Amazon because I find the convenience acceptable considering the risk. Sometimes I'll repurchase on Amazon for things I physically own just for the convenience of it. --- But yeah, pirating is going to become rampant again due to the behavior of these companies. I certainly have no qualms about doing it. Generally speaking, if I want to watch a show and it's been pulled off of netflix or prime for some other service (HBO, CBS, etc) I just pirate it and move on. I haven't watched past the last season of Survivor that's available on Amazon because I don't care enough to pirate it, but when I do decide I want to watch through the rest of it, that's how I'll consume it. And fuck'em. You can't even _BUY_ the latest seasons on Amazon (my gf was purchasing them as she watched through them until they stopped offering it at all). You don't want my money, then you don't want my money.
• SergeAx 4y ago
  I do not keep files on my devices, unless they are in the queue for viewing/reading/listening. I know that any time I need anything - it is couple of clicks away on some torrent site. I will need to setup a torrent proxy some day if I decide to move to jurisdiction where ISPs are actively spying on their customers on using torrents (I heard a thing or two about Germany, for example). I am okay with that, as I am okay now with having couple of personal VPN exit nodes in countries where services want you to have a local IP address. Internet fragmentation is a fact, but not a very bothersome yet.
  • usui 4y ago
    Which country/ISP are you? The surveillance problem with ISPs became bad enough that I tunnel every single packet from every home device through a VPS using WireGuard now, and that solved it. None of the home devices need to know anything about WireGuard, just the router.
    • SergeAx 4y ago
      I was in Russia and Turkey, now in Serbia.
    • fsflover 4y ago
      Sounds overly complicated. I prefer torrenting on I2P instead: https://geti2p.net https://geti2p.net.
      • usui 4y ago
        I don't feel comfortable participating with this particular p2p network. I'd rather make attempts to be my own custodian.