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Will Amazon 3P sellers be subjected to this? It will be interesting to see how many of the made up brands like HORDUSY and ASCALFT are backed by the same partie

Will Amazon 3P sellers be subjected to this? It will be interesting to see how many of the made up brands like HORDUSY and ASCALFT are backed by the same parties.

hooverd 4y ago
If you can bear the shipping times, the same crap is a lot cheaper on AliExpress.
- jorvi 4y ago
  But without the regulatory shield. If an AliExpress-ordered charger burns your house down, good luck getting any money from the seller based in Asia. If a dropshipped charger burns your house down, the European ‘entity’ (usually just some dude in Europe making a buck) is on the hook, and either his legally required liability insurance makes you whole, or you can garnish his income for decades.
  - hyperhopper 4y ago
    In America, we really don't get the shield upside, though
    - dragonwriter 4y ago
      In America, we tend to have strict liability for product defects across the chain of commerce. At least in California, that is established to include Amazon for Marketplace products, at least those that are FBA. Bolger v. Amazon, 53 Cal. App. 5th 431 (2020). EDIT: Actually, that also applies to non-FBA, as well; Loomis v. Amazon, 63 Cal.App. 5th 466 (2021).
  - hooverd 4y ago
    Haha, I try not to buy things that could burn my house down from there. Unless it's 3D printer parts ironically, but those sellers have somewhat of a reputation to maintain.
- kristopolous 4y ago
  In this case, the premium you pay for is service, warranty and returns. Sometimes you don't care. Choose wisely.
  - Scoundreller 4y ago
    I just self-warranty and self-return AliExpress items into the garbage can. I assume that will happen ~10% of the time, which is much less than my savings. Ok, I’ll admit, sometimes I warranty claim and get a refund. What I like about aliexpress reviews is that they seem to mostly be by well-intentioned Russians evaluating purchases on a strictly technical basis. Ali’s auto-translation is sloppy but it’s nothing like the wasteland that is most Amazon reviews.
  - hooverd 4y ago
    It's a minefield for sure.
richbell 4y ago
Relevant discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32195987 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32195987

Will Amazon 3P sellers be subjected to this? It will be interesting to see how many of the made up brands like HORDUSY and ASCALFT are backed by the same parties.

hooverd 4y ago

If you can bear the shipping times, the same crap is a lot cheaper on AliExpress.

jorvi 4y ago
But without the regulatory shield. If an AliExpress-ordered charger burns your house down, good luck getting any money from the seller based in Asia. If a dropshipped charger burns your house down, the European ‘entity’ (usually just some dude in Europe making a buck) is on the hook, and either his legally required liability insurance makes you whole, or you can garnish his income for decades.
- hyperhopper 4y ago
  In America, we really don't get the shield upside, though
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    In America, we tend to have strict liability for product defects across the chain of commerce. At least in California, that is established to include Amazon for Marketplace products, at least those that are FBA. Bolger v. Amazon, 53 Cal. App. 5th 431 (2020). EDIT: Actually, that also applies to non-FBA, as well; Loomis v. Amazon, 63 Cal.App. 5th 466 (2021).
- hooverd 4y ago
  Haha, I try not to buy things that could burn my house down from there. Unless it's 3D printer parts ironically, but those sellers have somewhat of a reputation to maintain.
kristopolous 4y ago
In this case, the premium you pay for is service, warranty and returns. Sometimes you don't care. Choose wisely.
- Scoundreller 4y ago
  I just self-warranty and self-return AliExpress items into the garbage can. I assume that will happen ~10% of the time, which is much less than my savings. Ok, I’ll admit, sometimes I warranty claim and get a refund. What I like about aliexpress reviews is that they seem to mostly be by well-intentioned Russians evaluating purchases on a strictly technical basis. Ali’s auto-translation is sloppy but it’s nothing like the wasteland that is most Amazon reviews.
- hooverd 4y ago
  It's a minefield for sure.

richbell 4y ago

Relevant discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32195987 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32195987