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It’s unfair to lump in all activists with dishonorable, lying ones. There will always be parasites who glob onto any movement purely for the status, but that sh
by jquery 4y ago
It’s unfair to lump in all activists with dishonorable, lying ones. There will always be parasites who glob onto any movement purely for the status, but that shouldn’t alone discredit the movement.
- yucky 4y agoNot until these supposed "good activists" loudly and vociferously throw these toxic people out, and under the bus (and very publicly). Until that happens, they are mucking around in the same mud as the pigs, which makes them indistinguishable.
- api 4y agoI've heard a number of Christians talk about how many of them dislike people like Pat Robertson. Why don't they speak up? Sometimes they do, but they don't have media empires. Lunatics and fanatics and grifters are always the loudest and their messages have the highest virality. They maximize engagement. After all, here we are talking about them. We're not talking about the sane people.
- yucky 4y ago> I've heard a number of Christians talk about how many of them dislike people like Pat Robertson. Why don't they speak up? Couldn't tell you, I'm not a religious person. But I agree that these "warriors" for social justice are grifters just like the Pat Robertson's of the world.
- api 4y ago... and just like LibsOfTikTok and Tim Poole and all the rest of those kind. They're all professional trolls that farm controversy for money. They've always existed but social media has just opened up the professional troll career to a lot more independent entrants.
- jquery 4y agoWhy is “good activists” in quotes when the entire NYT article is about these good activists (and indeed, the very act of getting such an article published in the NYT is as close to “throwing them out” as we have in our society)..
- yucky 4y agoHow does it go? Silence is violence or something? They didn't call it out from day one, then the purity test they would apply to others applies to them. Simple as that, right?
- jquery 4y ago“the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: ‘theres actually zero difference between good & bad things. you imbecile. you fucking moron’” - @dril
- unconed 4y agoIt sucks for people who sincerely want to endeavor for good, but I don't see any of that happening in the culture war sphere. The entire thing runs on invented grievances, word games, abusive power plays and historical original sin. I also don't see any evidence that it's actually helping the people that activists invariably speak on behalf of. A movement doesn't have to consist of mostly dishonorable liars to be invalid. It can simply be based on terminally bad epistemology. Like the idea that the only reason people would disagree is because they are privileged. It creates self reinforcing loops that become allergic to facts. (Funny example: the idea of racial reparations recently popped up again in the Netherlands... except... the country already paid reparations when Suriname became independent.)
- jquery 4y ago>“The entire thing runs on invented grievances, word games, abusive power plays and historical original sin.” You’re talking about modern conservative ideology here, right? Fits Trump and DeSantis to a perfect T. I agree, it’s based on terminally bad epistemology that exists to justify existing biases and keep us fighting with each other instead of taking on the wealthy oligarchs who “own” everything.