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Also this could use some mentioning Instead of having a single "inventor", the Internet was developed by many people over many years. The following are so

Also this could use some mentioning Instead of having a single "inventor", the Internet was developed by many people over many years. The following are some Internet pioneers who contributed to its early and ongoing development. These include early theoretical foundations, specifying original protocols, and expansion beyond a research tool to wide deployment.[1] 1.1 Claude Shannon 1.2 Vannevar Bush 1.3 J. C. R. Licklider 1.4 Paul Baran 1.5 Donald Davies 1.6 Charles M. Herzfeld 1.7 Bob Taylor 1.8 Larry Roberts 1.9 Leonard Kleinrock 1.10 Bob Kahn 1.11 Douglas Engelbart 1.12 Elizabeth Feinler 1.13 Louis Pouzin 1.14 John Klensin 1.15 Vint Cerf 1.16 Yogen Dalal 1.17 Peter Kirstein 1.18 Steve Crocker 1.19 Jon Postel 1.20 Joyce K. Reynolds 1.21 Danny Cohen 1.22 David J. Farber 1.23 Paul Mockapetris 1.24 David Clark 1.25 Susan Estrada 1.26 Dave Mills 1.27 Radia Perlman 1.28 Dennis M. Jennings 1.29 Steve Wolff 1.30 Sally Floyd 1.31 Van Jacobson 1.32 Ted Nelson 1.33 Tim Berners-Lee 1.34 Robert Cailliau 1.35 Nicola Pellow 1.36 Mark P. McCahill 1.37 Marc Andreessen 1.38 Eric Bina [1] List of Internet pioneers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_pioneers

ironmagma 4y ago
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- sriram_malhar 4y ago
  This meme needs to die. Quoting from: https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/799/708 https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/799/70... > 1988: NSF sponsors a series of workshops at Harvard on the commercialization and privatization of the Internet. > 1988: Kahn et al. write a paper "Towards a National Research Network." According to the Brief History, "This report was influential on then Senator Al Gore, and ushered in high speed networks that laid the networking foundation for the future information superhighway." Gore was making speeches on the senate floor. In 1986, he said in a speech that is on the congressional record: > America's highways transport people and materials across the country. Federal freeways connect with state highways which connect in turn with county roads and city streets. To transport data and ideas, we will need a telecommunications highway connecting users coast to coast, state to state, city to city. The study required in this amendment will identify the problems and opportunities the nation will face in establishing that highway.
  - ironmagma 4y ago
    It's just a fun thing, I don't know how history would affect it unless there was evidence he never said "I took the initiative in creating the Internet" which he did.
    - vlovich123 4y ago
      Snopes has a very complete fact check here (regardless of political concerns you may have about it overall, this article particularly has good factual search): https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/internet-of-lies/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/internet-of-lies/ There’s a bunch of important contextual quotes: > If, for example, Dwight Eisenhower had said in the mid-1960s that he, while president, "took the initiative in creating the Interstate Highway System," he would not have been the subject of dozens and dozens of editorials lampooning him for claiming he "invented" the concept of highways or implying that he personally went out and dug ditches across the country to help build the roadway. Everyone would have understood that Eisenhower meant he was a driving force behind the legislation that created the highway system, and this was the very same concept Al Gore was expressing about himself with interview remarks about the Internet. > Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his role. He said: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the Internet." We don't think, as some people have argued, that Gore intended to claim he "invented" the Internet. Moreover, there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and promoting the Internet long before most people were listening. We feel it is timely to offer our perspective. It’s can be a funny joke, but, given its role in the presidential election and the possibility that is swung it to GWB, it’s important to make sure one is making that joke with the full understanding that it was actually taken wholly out of context which it sounds like you’re disagreeing with. If Vint Cerf (the guy this article is about) is out there saying “yup what Al Gore said is 100% accurate”, wouldn’t that cause you to take a second look (seriously - that snopes article has a lot of detail. Highly recommended reading if you’re unfamiliar with the context). Having an organizing or foundational role in ensuring funding gives you a pretty strong claim. It’s like Sergei Brin saying he invented Google. Probably about 0% of his original lines of code still exist. Would you laugh at Steve Jobs if he claimed he invented the iPhone even though he didn’t do participate in inventing any of the actual innovation that would make it what it was like capacitive touch control and multitouch gestures? Would Lincoln be out of place for saying he won the Civil War even though he personally was a civilian and personally hasn’t fought or killed anyone and wasn’t a general? Would Truman be out of place in claiming he was a key piece in the creation of the atomic bombs considering he took the Einstein-Szilard letter to heart and set the governmental wheels in motion that led to the formation of the Manhattan project?
teleforce 4y ago
Well, they said success has many fathers for a reason. Very strange that the the list of the Internet pioneers from the Wikipedia that you've posted does not include Robert Metcalf but the article does mentioned him, but seriously why he is not in the Top 10 is beyond me! Robert is the original inventor of Ethernet he also also founded a highly successful 3Com company providing Internet infrastructure in the early days of the Internet [1],[2]. Based on the OP article we should have the original picture of the back of the envelope drawing by Cerf but nothing to be seen because according to him he threw it away. Robert, however have drawing picture of the Ethernet's original design in its glorified envelope with infamous vampire clamps/taps on it [3],[4]. [1] Robert Metcalf: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Metcalfe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Metcalfe [2] 3Com: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3Com https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3Com [3] Who Invented Ethernet? https://linuxhint.com/ethernet-history/ https://linuxhint.com/ethernet-history/ [4] Vampire tap: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_tap https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_tap

ironmagma 4y ago

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sriram_malhar 4y ago
This meme needs to die. Quoting from: https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/799/708 https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/799/70... > 1988: NSF sponsors a series of workshops at Harvard on the commercialization and privatization of the Internet. > 1988: Kahn et al. write a paper "Towards a National Research Network." According to the Brief History, "This report was influential on then Senator Al Gore, and ushered in high speed networks that laid the networking foundation for the future information superhighway." Gore was making speeches on the senate floor. In 1986, he said in a speech that is on the congressional record: > America's highways transport people and materials across the country. Federal freeways connect with state highways which connect in turn with county roads and city streets. To transport data and ideas, we will need a telecommunications highway connecting users coast to coast, state to state, city to city. The study required in this amendment will identify the problems and opportunities the nation will face in establishing that highway.
- ironmagma 4y ago
  It's just a fun thing, I don't know how history would affect it unless there was evidence he never said "I took the initiative in creating the Internet" which he did.
  - vlovich123 4y ago
    Snopes has a very complete fact check here (regardless of political concerns you may have about it overall, this article particularly has good factual search): https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/internet-of-lies/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/internet-of-lies/ There’s a bunch of important contextual quotes: > If, for example, Dwight Eisenhower had said in the mid-1960s that he, while president, "took the initiative in creating the Interstate Highway System," he would not have been the subject of dozens and dozens of editorials lampooning him for claiming he "invented" the concept of highways or implying that he personally went out and dug ditches across the country to help build the roadway. Everyone would have understood that Eisenhower meant he was a driving force behind the legislation that created the highway system, and this was the very same concept Al Gore was expressing about himself with interview remarks about the Internet. > Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his role. He said: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the Internet." We don't think, as some people have argued, that Gore intended to claim he "invented" the Internet. Moreover, there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and promoting the Internet long before most people were listening. We feel it is timely to offer our perspective. It’s can be a funny joke, but, given its role in the presidential election and the possibility that is swung it to GWB, it’s important to make sure one is making that joke with the full understanding that it was actually taken wholly out of context which it sounds like you’re disagreeing with. If Vint Cerf (the guy this article is about) is out there saying “yup what Al Gore said is 100% accurate”, wouldn’t that cause you to take a second look (seriously - that snopes article has a lot of detail. Highly recommended reading if you’re unfamiliar with the context). Having an organizing or foundational role in ensuring funding gives you a pretty strong claim. It’s like Sergei Brin saying he invented Google. Probably about 0% of his original lines of code still exist. Would you laugh at Steve Jobs if he claimed he invented the iPhone even though he didn’t do participate in inventing any of the actual innovation that would make it what it was like capacitive touch control and multitouch gestures? Would Lincoln be out of place for saying he won the Civil War even though he personally was a civilian and personally hasn’t fought or killed anyone and wasn’t a general? Would Truman be out of place in claiming he was a key piece in the creation of the atomic bombs considering he took the Einstein-Szilard letter to heart and set the governmental wheels in motion that led to the formation of the Manhattan project?

teleforce 4y ago

Well, they said success has many fathers for a reason. Very strange that the the list of the Internet pioneers from the Wikipedia that you've posted does not include Robert Metcalf but the article does mentioned him, but seriously why he is not in the Top 10 is beyond me! Robert is the original inventor of Ethernet he also also founded a highly successful 3Com company providing Internet infrastructure in the early days of the Internet [1],[2]. Based on the OP article we should have the original picture of the back of the envelope drawing by Cerf but nothing to be seen because according to him he threw it away. Robert, however have drawing picture of the Ethernet's original design in its glorified envelope with infamous vampire clamps/taps on it [3],[4]. [1] Robert Metcalf: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Metcalfe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Metcalfe [2] 3Com: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3Com https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3Com [3] Who Invented Ethernet? https://linuxhint.com/ethernet-history/ https://linuxhint.com/ethernet-history/ [4] Vampire tap: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_tap https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_tap