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Not coincidentally: TSMC in talks with suppliers over first European plant: https://www.reuters.com/technology/tsmc-talks-with-suppliers-over-first-european-pl

• api 4y ago
  It's absolutely foolish for the US not to offer open immigration to anyone in Taiwan without a felony conviction, or even without one in the past 10 years. Best way to deal with this without risking US troops or risking WWIII is to just drain the island of all its talent and ambition. Same goes for Russia. We should be offering open immigration to anyone fleeing Russia who passes a security check. Drain Putin's brains. Brain drain from Nazi Germany and the USSR were arguably factors that propelled the US to superpower status in the 20th century.
  • jorvi 4y ago
    > .. is to just drain the island of all its talent and ambition. What an extremely callous and deeply cold-hearted thing to say about an ally. Imagine someone said that about the US?
    • api 4y ago
      I should have qualified that with: if China is actually going to invade and we can’t stop them. I don’t think you are going to convince the US leadership to go to war directly against a nuclear power for Taiwan. They won’t for Ukraine either. If Taiwan can resist like Ukraine they will supply Taiwan, but China is considerably stronger and more advanced than Russia. I don’t think that level of resistance is likely. If I were Taiwanese I’d rather have the option of having a good place to go as an alternative to forceful subjugation by a totalitarian power.
  • yongjik 4y ago
    So you want America to publicly declare that it will not lift a finger to defend its ally, and instead skim the top of the cream of Taiwanese society and leave their friends and relatives to die in war? If the Taiwanese wanted to defend their country they should have learned to do it themselves, ha ha. Imagine what kind of message this sends to people of Japan, South Korea, or Poland.
    • ashwagary 4y ago
      >So you want America to publicly declare that it will not lift a finger to defend its ally >Imagine what kind of message this sends to people of Japan, South Korea, or Poland. An honest one.
  • scarmig 4y ago
    The message everyone hears from that is that if your country is threatened by an aggressive power, we'll give it up but let you flee it and come to us. That's... not reassuring for allies.
• dogma1138 4y ago
  TSMC being essentially exclusive to Taiwan when it comes to leading edge nodes is paramount to the national security of Taiwan there is no way that the Taiwanese government would allow them to diversify. TSMC is has been teasing both the US and the EU but they aren’t going to move anything substantial out of Taiwan.
  • albertopv 4y ago
    ASML is essential to chip manufacturing and it's european, what about EU restricting exports for security reasons if Taiwan do the same? I don't think chip factories will save Taiwan from chinese war, too much nationalism fueled by communist party and too weak economy in long term.
    • dogma1138 4y ago
      They very much serve as a trip wire defense. Taiwan famously has a scorched earth policy in regards to its own industry and they will physically destroy manufacturing plants and IP if they’ll ever be invaded. This is done to both deter China and to push the west put their support behind Taiwan. So there is zero analogy to ASML, Zeiss and a few other European players that are critical to the SC industry.
      • albertopv 4y ago
        I think one day or another China will attack Taiwan anyway, scorched earth policy or west support (which to an island will be extremely difficult) are irrelevant, and so is Taiwan tech export policy.