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Mobile's always gotta ruin everything.

kergonath 4y ago
You have it backwards. The majority of internet traffic comes from mobiles. If anything, it’s the other way around, and website designers assuming everyone uses a desktop computer that ruins it for most people.
- shrimp_emoji 4y ago
  Right, but look at it this way: 1. I'm not using a real computer 2. I'm accessing something built for real computers 3. The solution is to morph the thing I'm accessing around the device with horrible physical input/output that I'm using At 2 of those steps (probably all 3), I think you've made a mistake. And, yeah, most people make all 3. That doesn't make them correct or the thing you're morphing to the lowest common denominator better. From the creators' perspective, it's not the other way around; you're probably not going to be coding on a phone, for example. You're probably coding things on a real computer. When you're creating something new, whether you should cater that thing to mobile or not is a different matter. (Odds are, though, it's probably going to be a better experience when consumed on a real computer, too, just like for creating it.)
  - kergonath 4y ago
    > 1. I'm not using a real computer It has a CPU, some RAM, and I/O devices. It is a real computer, by any definition of “computer”. Just maybe not in a form factor you like. > 2. I'm accessing something built for real computers By and large, it’s not the people accessing the web who build it. Web developers just follow their audience. > 3. The solution is to morph the thing I'm accessing around the device with horrible physical input/output that I'm using It is not horrible, merely different. Some things are hard to do on a touch screen and easy on a keyboard, and some others are the other way around. The thing is, mobile-friendly web design does not imply desktop-unfriendliness. In this case, it is easy to add an input to show the keyboard. Particularly compared to putting a whole emulator on the same page. It also would not change a thing for desktop users.

You have it backwards. The majority of internet traffic comes from mobiles. If anything, it’s the other way around, and website designers assuming everyone uses a desktop computer that ruins it for most people.

shrimp_emoji 4y ago
Right, but look at it this way: 1. I'm not using a real computer 2. I'm accessing something built for real computers 3. The solution is to morph the thing I'm accessing around the device with horrible physical input/output that I'm using At 2 of those steps (probably all 3), I think you've made a mistake. And, yeah, most people make all 3. That doesn't make them correct or the thing you're morphing to the lowest common denominator better. From the creators' perspective, it's not the other way around; you're probably not going to be coding on a phone, for example. You're probably coding things on a real computer. When you're creating something new, whether you should cater that thing to mobile or not is a different matter. (Odds are, though, it's probably going to be a better experience when consumed on a real computer, too, just like for creating it.)
- kergonath 4y ago
  > 1. I'm not using a real computer It has a CPU, some RAM, and I/O devices. It is a real computer, by any definition of “computer”. Just maybe not in a form factor you like. > 2. I'm accessing something built for real computers By and large, it’s not the people accessing the web who build it. Web developers just follow their audience. > 3. The solution is to morph the thing I'm accessing around the device with horrible physical input/output that I'm using It is not horrible, merely different. Some things are hard to do on a touch screen and easy on a keyboard, and some others are the other way around. The thing is, mobile-friendly web design does not imply desktop-unfriendliness. In this case, it is easy to add an input to show the keyboard. Particularly compared to putting a whole emulator on the same page. It also would not change a thing for desktop users.