5 ms·
This is already happening at a state level, and with some not-unconcerning implications: https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/tech/tiktok-universities/index.html http
by ffssffss 4y ago
This is already happening at a state level, and with some not-unconcerning implications: https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/tech/tiktok-universities/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/tech/tiktok-universities/inde...
For those two schools, students are completely blocked from accessing TikTok on school networks.
- tareqak 4y agoI wonder what school boards and the different levels of government will think about a sudden increase in students using VPNs and Tor.
- edgyquant 4y agoThey’ve likely blocked tor already
- seanmcdirmid 4y agoWill students even bother? They mostly have cell phones with data, they might not even notice unless they are connecting their phones to university wifi for some reason.
- thevagrant 4y agoI don't think that would bother me with my kids. Is TikTok a necessity for school related activity? When I went to school, I couldn't access the internet. I had to wait until I got home.
- CircleSpokes 4y agoUniversity isn't the same as grade school. It is absurd a public University would do any sort of filtering or censorship on their networks.
- coderintherye 4y ago>any sort of filtering This is a rather absurd position if you consider it. To take the absolute simplest example, you really think a school should not be allowed to filter traffic from students specifically launching purposeful attacks on school network infrastructure?
- np- 4y agoAttacks are a bit different than someone trying to access information, though. Much like it is illegal to punch someone in the face, unless they try to punch you first.
- CircleSpokes 4y agoMaybe I should have been more specific. In my mind there is a difference between stopping outgoing ddos attack and blocking/censoring websites.
- coderintherye 4y agoNow define "outgoing attack". You're trying to keep it defined to "ddos" only but surely you would agree that the school filtering a student actively attempting to hijack school infrastructure to send active shooter threats to the student population should also be filtered yes? Keep going a few steps and you'll realize that's exactly the problem, there's no level of specificity you can define here that works without some level of subjectivity. Try and see. Good luck. Suggested reading: https://twitter.com/yishan/status/1586955288061452289 https://twitter.com/yishan/status/1586955288061452289
- thevagrant 4y agoUniversities also employ academics (some of whom are outspoken toward CCP). Possibly Universities are doing this for more than one reason? For example to protect their staff given the recent articles about tiktok tracking of journalists
- feet 4y agoReally? Many universities do DNS filtering so I'm not sure where that idea comes from
- ffssffss 4y agoI guess what concerns me is that in some schools, students are required to live in dorms. So to me, it feels like an encroachment on what I would consider the students' personal, private home, where I suppose they should be allowed to access whatever content they like (minus, of course, the content I deem objectionable, like child exploitation, but thats much easier for us all to agree on I think).
- washadjeffmad 4y agoOnly the apps for TikTok, WeChat, and Telegram are being blocked and removed, not the websites, and only from state property. There's a privacy and security (read: espionage) concern with the apps right now.
- endianswap 4y agoAccording to TFA they're blocked from being accessed from school wi-fi, not only from state property.
- washadjeffmad 4y agoNot accurate in Georgia. I can VPN into two institutions and access those domains, and so far one of the Networking teams says they've been given no order to block by DNS or IP. They also have no separate VLAN for student wifi.
- ffssffss 4y agoThe two schools are University of Oklahoma and Auburn University.
- washadjeffmad 4y agoThe article explicitly mentions the University System of Georgia.
- someNameIG 4y ago
- sundvor 4y agoAs a somewhat responsible parent I see TikTok as intellectual poison, or attention pornography at best. It is banned in my house. (I grew up on the Vic20/C64/Amiga etc; am not a Luddite).
- throwawaylinux 4y ago> As a somewhat responsible parent I see TikTok as intellectual poison, or attention pornography at best. It is. > It is banned in my house. Good. Don't let weird internet techbros namecalling or "expert advice" influence how you raise your children, or apologize for it. I imagine the most difficult problem with banning anything would be to make sure they don't feel or become isolated from their peers because of it. Must be tough.
- cute_boi 4y agoIt is not up to you or me to decide what is necessary or not for school related activity. Who even decides what is necessary or unnecessary. University shouldn't censor Tiktok and allow facebook, insta . We don't live in China where government passes draconian measures.
- paganel 4y agoIt will most probably teach them very fast how to install a VPN on their phones.
- dinkumthinkum 4y agoSounds great to me. TikTok is pretty, I don’t see a benefit for kids to use it. The type of content it has is hyper optimized for stunting development, in my opinion, I’m a way not found in most other social media. Also, it is rife with pretty illegal content. I would just say it doesn’t seem like a big loss.
- seanmcdirmid 4y agoOklahoma and Alabama doesn't really surprise me. However, kids are going to use tiktok via their phones and phone data plans anyways, it doesn't sound very effective.
- Thorentis 4y agoGood. Tik Tok is bad for children, regardless of who owns it.
- eiiot 4y agoMost schools ban social media websites on school Wifi (Instagram, Discord, etc.)
- ffssffss 4y agoI should have been more precise with my words, I'm talking about universities where adults are attending. I don't think that's true for most universities? At least it wasn't 10 years ago. Back then we all used Facebook quite a bit!