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Would you work for $16/hr with no health insurance? Hotels are notorious for not only not offering steady 40 hour employment but sending staff home if room coun

Would you work for $16/hr with no health insurance? Hotels are notorious for not only not offering steady 40 hour employment but sending staff home if room count is low or calling people in with minimal notice.

factsarelolz 4y ago
This job seems great for moms that want to work part time while their kids are in school. 11 am - 3pm.
- enumjorge 4y ago
  If we ignore the low pay, physically demanding work, bad benefits and and unpredictable work schedule, then yeah I guess these jobs sound great for moms.
  - factsarelolz 4y ago
    Physically demanding? What's the difference between cleaning a hotel room and cleaning your house or bedroom? There's absolutely zero heavy lifting. You change the sheets, vaccuum and wipe down everything. I would option to say taking care of kids is more physically demanding than cleaning. If it's just supplementary income it wouldn't really matter about benefits as the spouse would already have benefits.
    - Mezzie 4y ago
      Zero breaks, for one. And no ability to take sick days/stop doing it if you're injured. Doing work for 1-2 hours a day or a few hours a week is very different from doing it for 20-40 hours a week. (Much like there's a difference between taking on a project or two for a small team that requires some programming and being a full time dev). Oh, and you can't sit. That's like saying anybody who mows their lawn would have no difficulty in a landscaping position. And the kid thing it strongly depends on the age and type of kid. Kids at the most physically exhausting ages also tend to take naps which gives the parent a respite. You can also trade off with the other parent/other relatives if you're tired. Can't do that with work: Your coworkers aren't going to do your job if you have an off day. The physically demanding part is in the demand for physical consistency.
      - factsarelolz 4y ago
        > Zero breaks C'mon man. At least have a serious argument. You act like a person cleaning a hotel room can't stop to use the bathroom or take a few moments to collect themselves before starting on the next room. Have you ever stayed at a hotel? The staff moves at a normal rate, there doesn't appear to be a rush, they aren't sweating through their clothes. I've seen staff in their phones, texting, changing their music.
        Mezzie 4y ago
        ...I worked at a hotel, thanks. Not in room cleaning - I was a dishwasher - but yes, I know how it works. If you think 3 minutes in the bathroom is the same as an actual break, it's not. They appear not to be in a rush because they have to set a sustainable pace. That doesn't mean it's not difficult, especially for females. Many things that are easy for males physically are a PITA for us.
    - supertrope 4y ago
      Being on your feet all day and bending over to scrub a toilet is physically demanding relative to a project manager sitting in front of their laptop. Yes it's not as physical as working in a moving company, in a steel mill, or as a home health aide who lifts disabled people. "If you've got time to lean you've got time to clean." There's not always a spouse with a good job. When the employment market is in favor of employers people just have to accept shitty jobs. In tight labor markets these low wage no benefit jobs are hard to fill and current workers at an establishment don't lose much by quitting for greener pastures. Even with a spouse who has benefits through work, many employers don't subsidize family benefits. Their solution is a "spousal surcharge."
Natsu 4y ago
> Would you work for $16/hr with no health insurance? I actually did, even if you adjust for inflation.
nly 4y ago
Man $16 USD/hr is 30% higher than minimum wage in the UK with a similar cost of living. We have the NHS though for what it's worth.
- smcg 4y ago
  Call up Deepa and Deepak, they need help.
joenot443 4y ago
My first job was for $8.90/hr and I was beaming when I got first paycheck. $16/h was more than a single person at the whole restaurant was making.
- matwood 4y ago
  My first job paid $5.25/hour, but that has no bearing on what that same job should pay today.
- smcg 4y ago
  Would you clean hotels for $16/hour right now?
- pessimizer 4y ago
  If it were 1830, $16/hr would be more than the entire restaurant was making. But who cares?
- sonotathrowaway 4y ago
  “In my day the funny papers used to cost 25 cents.” Wait until you learn about this thing called inflation!
- dumpsterlid 4y ago
  [flagged]
Mezzie 4y ago
I don't see how it's possible for 99% of people. I stepped away from the professional world and am working retail for 15/hr while I get my shit sorted out. This only works due to the following factors: 1.) I have zero commute expenses. I live a five minute walk from work. 2.) I have state provided healthcare independent of my employment, which most Americans can't get. I'm only eligible because I have a severe disability. 3.) I live in a LCOL area. We're still under 1k for a two bedroom apartment and houses can be had for ~100-150k. 4.) I have some professional contacts/a network with higher incomes that can help me out if I need it and don't abuse the relationships. We're still struggling a lot. If you're going to be homeless with or without a job, why bother with a job?
rufus_foreman 4y ago
I worked for $3.35 an hour with no health insurance at several different jobs, adjusted for inflation that would be around $9 an hour today. And the paper route I had probably paid half of that. Eventually I had to learn to code.

factsarelolz 4y ago

This job seems great for moms that want to work part time while their kids are in school. 11 am - 3pm.

enumjorge 4y ago
If we ignore the low pay, physically demanding work, bad benefits and and unpredictable work schedule, then yeah I guess these jobs sound great for moms.
- factsarelolz 4y ago
  Physically demanding? What's the difference between cleaning a hotel room and cleaning your house or bedroom? There's absolutely zero heavy lifting. You change the sheets, vaccuum and wipe down everything. I would option to say taking care of kids is more physically demanding than cleaning. If it's just supplementary income it wouldn't really matter about benefits as the spouse would already have benefits.
  - Mezzie 4y ago
    Zero breaks, for one. And no ability to take sick days/stop doing it if you're injured. Doing work for 1-2 hours a day or a few hours a week is very different from doing it for 20-40 hours a week. (Much like there's a difference between taking on a project or two for a small team that requires some programming and being a full time dev). Oh, and you can't sit. That's like saying anybody who mows their lawn would have no difficulty in a landscaping position. And the kid thing it strongly depends on the age and type of kid. Kids at the most physically exhausting ages also tend to take naps which gives the parent a respite. You can also trade off with the other parent/other relatives if you're tired. Can't do that with work: Your coworkers aren't going to do your job if you have an off day. The physically demanding part is in the demand for physical consistency.
    - factsarelolz 4y ago
      > Zero breaks C'mon man. At least have a serious argument. You act like a person cleaning a hotel room can't stop to use the bathroom or take a few moments to collect themselves before starting on the next room. Have you ever stayed at a hotel? The staff moves at a normal rate, there doesn't appear to be a rush, they aren't sweating through their clothes. I've seen staff in their phones, texting, changing their music.
      - Mezzie 4y ago
        ...I worked at a hotel, thanks. Not in room cleaning - I was a dishwasher - but yes, I know how it works. If you think 3 minutes in the bathroom is the same as an actual break, it's not. They appear not to be in a rush because they have to set a sustainable pace. That doesn't mean it's not difficult, especially for females. Many things that are easy for males physically are a PITA for us.
  - supertrope 4y ago
    Being on your feet all day and bending over to scrub a toilet is physically demanding relative to a project manager sitting in front of their laptop. Yes it's not as physical as working in a moving company, in a steel mill, or as a home health aide who lifts disabled people. "If you've got time to lean you've got time to clean." There's not always a spouse with a good job. When the employment market is in favor of employers people just have to accept shitty jobs. In tight labor markets these low wage no benefit jobs are hard to fill and current workers at an establishment don't lose much by quitting for greener pastures. Even with a spouse who has benefits through work, many employers don't subsidize family benefits. Their solution is a "spousal surcharge."

Natsu 4y ago

> Would you work for $16/hr with no health insurance? I actually did, even if you adjust for inflation.

nly 4y ago

Man $16 USD/hr is 30% higher than minimum wage in the UK with a similar cost of living. We have the NHS though for what it's worth.

smcg 4y ago
Call up Deepa and Deepak, they need help.

joenot443 4y ago

My first job was for $8.90/hr and I was beaming when I got first paycheck. $16/h was more than a single person at the whole restaurant was making.

matwood 4y ago
My first job paid $5.25/hour, but that has no bearing on what that same job should pay today.
smcg 4y ago
Would you clean hotels for $16/hour right now?
pessimizer 4y ago
If it were 1830, $16/hr would be more than the entire restaurant was making. But who cares?
sonotathrowaway 4y ago
“In my day the funny papers used to cost 25 cents.” Wait until you learn about this thing called inflation!
dumpsterlid 4y ago
[flagged]

Mezzie 4y ago

I don't see how it's possible for 99% of people. I stepped away from the professional world and am working retail for 15/hr while I get my shit sorted out. This only works due to the following factors: 1.) I have zero commute expenses. I live a five minute walk from work. 2.) I have state provided healthcare independent of my employment, which most Americans can't get. I'm only eligible because I have a severe disability. 3.) I live in a LCOL area. We're still under 1k for a two bedroom apartment and houses can be had for ~100-150k. 4.) I have some professional contacts/a network with higher incomes that can help me out if I need it and don't abuse the relationships. We're still struggling a lot. If you're going to be homeless with or without a job, why bother with a job?

rufus_foreman 4y ago

I worked for $3.35 an hour with no health insurance at several different jobs, adjusted for inflation that would be around $9 an hour today. And the paper route I had probably paid half of that. Eventually I had to learn to code.