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It shouldn't be the role of the ISP, but in the UK content blocking is legally mandated. E.g., "The Digital Economy Act 2017 placed the requirement for ISP filt

It shouldn't be the role of the ISP, but in the UK content blocking is legally mandated. E.g., "The Digital Economy Act 2017 placed the requirement for ISP filtering into law and introduced a requirement for ISPs to block pornographic sites with inadequate age verification." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_blocking_in_the_United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_blocking_in_the_United_Kin...

Eleison23 4y ago
that_guy_iain 4y ago
Porn and fraud are two very different things.
IshKebab 4y ago
Yeah I'm not sure how much ISPs still bother with that. Up until a year or so ago my ISP was pretty good at blocking torrent sites but now I can visit e.g. 1337x.to with no problems. I think this is talking about 3's adult content filter which is different and has existed for ages and has always been shit (I assume most people disable it).
lost_tourist 4y ago
Yeah but email is a service completely unrelated to porn.
- roenxi 4y ago
  How can an ISP be sure an end-to-end encrypted communication channel isn't being used for porn? It is encrypted. By design they have no idea what it is being used for. It would be very easy to set up a ring of pornography distributors using email (at least in the UK, in civilised countries they'd probably be put out of business by the open internet).
  - Nextgrid 4y ago
    By this interpretation, any TLS channel, even to a supposedly "clean" domain, can be used for porn. Btw, nothing prevents you from emailing porn over Gmail or any of the other "allowed" email providers.
    - roenxi 4y ago
      Yep. It seems quite likely the UK has a problem with any TLS channel that isn't with a trusted endpoint. There is precedent if they want to take extreme measures - https://www.zdnet.com/article/china-is-now-blocking-all-encrypted-https-traffic-using-tls-1-3-and-esni/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/china-is-now-blocking-all-encr...

Eleison23 4y ago

that_guy_iain 4y ago

Porn and fraud are two very different things.

IshKebab 4y ago

Yeah I'm not sure how much ISPs still bother with that. Up until a year or so ago my ISP was pretty good at blocking torrent sites but now I can visit e.g. 1337x.to with no problems. I think this is talking about 3's adult content filter which is different and has existed for ages and has always been shit (I assume most people disable it).

lost_tourist 4y ago

Yeah but email is a service completely unrelated to porn.

roenxi 4y ago
How can an ISP be sure an end-to-end encrypted communication channel isn't being used for porn? It is encrypted. By design they have no idea what it is being used for. It would be very easy to set up a ring of pornography distributors using email (at least in the UK, in civilised countries they'd probably be put out of business by the open internet).
- Nextgrid 4y ago
  By this interpretation, any TLS channel, even to a supposedly "clean" domain, can be used for porn. Btw, nothing prevents you from emailing porn over Gmail or any of the other "allowed" email providers.
  - roenxi 4y ago
    Yep. It seems quite likely the UK has a problem with any TLS channel that isn't with a trusted endpoint. There is precedent if they want to take extreme measures - https://www.zdnet.com/article/china-is-now-blocking-all-encrypted-https-traffic-using-tls-1-3-and-esni/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/china-is-now-blocking-all-encr...