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> pick a better one? Such as?

• innocentoldguy 4y ago
  My choices would be: - Elixir - Rust - Clojure - Crystal In that order.
  • cosmicradiance 4y ago
    Are you an expert in all those languages? To me these are the exotic languages which one gets inspired from when reading the stackoverflow survey, but there is hardly any one person I know who has mastered even half of those.
    • nicoburns 4y ago
      Once you’ve learnt a few languages, learning more becomes easy. Elixir, Rust and Clojure are all reasonably widely used. And I would note: somewhat similar to each other.
    • innocentoldguy 4y ago
      I don't consider myself an expert at anything, but yes, I use these languages on a daily to weekly basis at work. We had some Go code, but replaced it with Elixir. EDIT: I'd also like to add that Elixir and Rust aren't "exotic." Crystal may be, but it's basically just compiled/typed Ruby. I've been using Elixir professionally for seven years across multiple companies: 1. Divvy. 2. GoSkip. 3. Podium. 4. Actiphy.
  • gabrielgio 4y ago
    If you allow me, my take on the list: * Clojure is a really nice and simple language, but the tooling and documentation comes nowhere near go, also it uses JVM, which would already disquilify as go replacement. * Rust is nice (or even better in a lot points) but a lot harder. Concurrency in go is just lot easier. * Elixir, I agree, although I don't have much experience of the language. * Crystal, not clue about this lang xD.
    • pjmlp 4y ago
      There are AOT options for JVM, just need to learn how to use them.
  • nine_k 4y ago
    Elixir is wonderful, but its deployment story is much more complicated than Go's or Rust's.
    • innocentoldguy 4y ago
      I don't think Elixir's deployment story is difficult. It doesn't result in a single executable, like Go compiles to, but it's easy to deploy Elixir apps and the compiled package contains everything necessary to run (meaning you don't have to install Elixir, Erlang, etc. manually in production). The biggest benefits of Elixir over Go for me are: 1. Pattern matching. 2. Easier concurrency (with less resource usage). 3. Piping. 4. Easy to hire and train Ruby or Crystal developers. 5. Phoenix is an outstanding web framework for Elixir. 6. Excellent tooling. 7. Supervision trees. 8. Actor model. 9. Elixir's concurrency is done in private memory, whereas Go uses public memory. EDIT: Fixed formatting.
• clumsysmurf 4y ago
  I'm hoping Kotlin + GraalVM Native Image can fit the niche of golang.
  • the_gipsy 4y ago
    No VM language can fit the niche of go.
    • hnra 4y ago
      Why not?
      • the_gipsy 4y ago
        Kotlin might fit the Java niche, if you trust someone that sells IDEs to make a language. Go's niche includes being native. If you discard that, then virtually anything that is "easy" could fit it.
        • masklinn 4y ago
          > Kotlin might fit the Java niche, if you trust someone that sells IDEs to make a language. They would at least know how to make a language that's not a pain in the ass to analyse, which is probably in its favour.
          • the_gipsy 4y ago
            Yea - but that's offered by all modern languages, and they're not tied to one particular IDE since LSP took off.
            • masklinn 4y ago
              > that's offered by all modern languages I see you've yet to meet Scala. > they're not tied to one particular IDE since LSP took off. There's at least one language server for Kotlin. I'm not even a interested in (let alone a user of) Kotlin, but you seem to have a very not-objective view of it for some reason.