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I don't get the navigation pattern on the page. When I click on a link it opens a panel that I can't close, but then if I push refresh I'm taken to a page with

I don't get the navigation pattern on the page. When I click on a link it opens a panel that I can't close, but then if I push refresh I'm taken to a page with a broken back button. IMO: Just do a normal site where links take you to pages. Don't be creative with the UI. Maybe you could use some bog-standard wiki software? The content itself looks very valuable, but because the UI is so bonkers, it's just too hard to use or link to.

marginalia_nu 4y ago
Seems to work if you right click and open in a new tab. Although I do agree it's a bit of an accomplishment to break an otherwise already working browser feature. Sadly not an uncommon one.
jiyuhtrfdrct 4y ago
> Just do a normal site It actually used to be normal HTML... the site is the first wiki. For some reason it was reimplemented as a broken JS app.
- twic 4y ago
  A while ago, Ward had some sort of idea about next-level hypertext: https://www.wired.com/2012/07/wiki-inventor/ https://www.wired.com/2012/07/wiki-inventor/ But his implementation of it for some reason involved rewriting it as an SPA, which he entirely botched.
marcosdumay 4y ago
Whoever designed this site spent a great deal of effort to make it behave like this. Adding my opinion, also let the text use the page width. Limiting it to 120 characters or whatever is fine, but what this site does is really not.
codetrotter 4y ago
> When I click on a link it opens a panel that I can't close, but then if I push refresh I'm taken to a page with a broken back button. On mobile I just tap outside of the panel to close it. Probably on desktop it will close as well if you click outside of it?
- enobrev 4y ago
  Unfortunately not. I thought this thread was being overly-picky until I opened the link. This is awful.
yosef123 4y ago
I agree, this also breaks the reader feature on iOS
donatj 4y ago
It really is a shame all this interesting information is stuck in this bizarre unusable site. Update - took me a solid 3 minutes of futzing with it to figure out you can close something by clicking on it's parent. Clicking on the grey area does not work.

marginalia_nu 4y ago

Seems to work if you right click and open in a new tab. Although I do agree it's a bit of an accomplishment to break an otherwise already working browser feature. Sadly not an uncommon one.

jiyuhtrfdrct 4y ago

> Just do a normal site It actually used to be normal HTML... the site is the first wiki. For some reason it was reimplemented as a broken JS app.

twic 4y ago
A while ago, Ward had some sort of idea about next-level hypertext: https://www.wired.com/2012/07/wiki-inventor/ https://www.wired.com/2012/07/wiki-inventor/ But his implementation of it for some reason involved rewriting it as an SPA, which he entirely botched.

marcosdumay 4y ago

Whoever designed this site spent a great deal of effort to make it behave like this. Adding my opinion, also let the text use the page width. Limiting it to 120 characters or whatever is fine, but what this site does is really not.

codetrotter 4y ago

> When I click on a link it opens a panel that I can't close, but then if I push refresh I'm taken to a page with a broken back button. On mobile I just tap outside of the panel to close it. Probably on desktop it will close as well if you click outside of it?

enobrev 4y ago
Unfortunately not. I thought this thread was being overly-picky until I opened the link. This is awful.

yosef123 4y ago

I agree, this also breaks the reader feature on iOS

donatj 4y ago

It really is a shame all this interesting information is stuck in this bizarre unusable site. Update - took me a solid 3 minutes of futzing with it to figure out you can close something by clicking on it's parent. Clicking on the grey area does not work.