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The legal rights of a corporation should rapidly decrease as it gains market power. My neighborhood bar should be allowed to 86 me for just about anything, but
by crmd 4y ago
The legal rights of a corporation should rapidly decrease as it gains market power. My neighborhood bar should be allowed to 86 me for just about anything, but Madison Square Garden Entertainment, Ticketmaster, and Live Nation should not. Same thing with google and Amazon banning people from their platform for a single good faith credit card chargeback.
- francisofascii 4y agoUnless your neighborhood bar is the only bar.
- pixl97 4y agoI mean, there are lots of other bars, so it's not really meaningful statement.
- s1artibartfast 4y agoI don't think I agree. You don't have right to be served alcohol within convenient walking distance.
- josephcsible 4y agoShould your electric company be allowed to arbitrarily cut you off, just because other neighborhoods are served by different electric companies?
- s1artibartfast 4y agoProbably not the electric company because they have a state granted monopoly position. However, if the only electrician in your town doesn't want to see you, I think that is within their rights. They aren't public servers and are a private business.
- francisofascii 4y agoMy point was more about a local monopoly. If you operate a monopoly, you should relinquish your right to deny whoever you want without cause. I do see your point about not having the right to be served served alcohol within convenient distance.
- s1artibartfast 4y agoIt sounds like we might agree, but I would further clarify that it depends on the type of Monopoly and viability of alternatives. The water company shouldn't be able to turn off your water because they don't like your associations or unrelated Behavior. However, if a licensed plumber doesn't want to serve your house because of the flag you're flying in front of it, that is fair game. They might be the only plumber in your area, but the state isn't preventing someone else from starting a business For example, if the state is protecting the Monopoly from competition, I don't think they should be able to discriminate. Same with grocery stores. While food is a necessity to live, the state isn't preventing someone else from selling groceries.
- pfisherman 4y agoThis is a pretty interesting concept. I think way this is described as “fewer rights” is not precise enough to pass muster. But I agree with the principle that the harm to an individual resulting from a ban is proportional to its scale / reach. For example, getting banned from all McDonald’s restaurants is qualitatively different from getting banned from one McDonald’s restaurant. So how does one go about qualifying / quantifying (1) the potential risk or harm caused by an individual violating terms for service and (2) the harm caused to the individual resulting from corrective actions; and then balance the two against each other?
- monksy 4y agoConsider your neighborhood bar may be under a group, i.e. hammock hospitality group.