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I wanted to know the state of Ted William's head, so I did a search. This is what I found: In "Frozen," Larry Johnson, a former executive at the Alcor Life Ext
by UberFly 4y ago
I wanted to know the state of Ted William's head, so I did a search. This is what I found:
In "Frozen," Larry Johnson, a former executive at the Alcor Life Extension Foundation in Scottsdale, Ariz., writes that Williams' head was abused at the facility. Johnson claims a technician took baseball-like swings at Williams' frozen head with a monkey wrench.
What?
- pavlov 4y agoAs the pharaohs already discovered, an immortality plan that depends on generations of low-paid underlings to maintain the dead elite's physical bodies is fundamentally flawed.
- wiz21c 4y agoFortunately, this statement is true for many plans of the elite :-)
- recuter 4y agoI too upon hearing of a lunatic beating a frozen disembodied head to gallagheresque pulp with a blunt instrument can't help but smile sardonically if the resulting goop was formerly wealthier than me. Cool and normal. Power to the people bro. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
- aussieshibe 4y agoIt's just like I always say: class warfare is a dish best served cryogenically frozen.
- lovich 4y agoMight have done the world a service. Immortality combined with winner takes all capitalism will just lead to an entrenched race of god emperors that won’t be removed ever except by society wide violence, basically like medieval kingdoms or dynastic empires. Market economies have helped limit that a bit(wealth inheritances still have a problem), but one of the unstated backstops of that system is that eventually the rich people in question do eventually die
- recuter 4y agoThe ends justify the monkey wrenches, eh?
- arkh 4y ago> Immortality If your body is not damaged enough. It would mean a lot of people would become really risk averse. If generalized it would fossilize a society really fast.
- aluminaient 4y agoYou've repeated their point.
- coldpie 4y agoEither democracy fixes the wealth gap, or violence does. And democracy ain't lookin' too hot over the past ten years.
- recuter 4y agoI'm no doctor but my guess is the frozen disembodied head was already dead..
- kbelder 4y agoIt's still a crime.
- trompetenaccoun 4y agoAll must be equal, then we will be free! Use violence if necessary, it will leads us right into utopia. https://i.redd.it/0h112jbq7js91.png https://i.redd.it/0h112jbq7js91.png
- aluminaient 4y agoNaive to think otherwise.
- throwuwu 4y agoI hope your dream job is digging turnips out of the ground. Although given historical precedent you’d have a higher chance of winding up in the ground after a violent revolution.
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- Ialdaboth 4y agoIt's the reason why they switched from low-paid underlings to a little better paid caste of technocatric petty bourgeoisie for the XXIst century ;)
- starkd 4y agoThey've also switched from preservation to attempting to avoid death altogether through stem cell treatments and longevity drugs.
- renox 4y agoUh? They already knew that which is why they tried to hide their tombs..
- Balgair 4y agoThe builders of the pyramids tried to hide their tombs?
- fjeifisjf 4y ago
- bigbillheck 4y agoThe pyramids were very early on in Egyptian history, they had a couple thousand years to refine the approach.
- seanw444 4y agoTo my understanding, not a single pharaoh was found in a pyramid. Most were found in the Valley of the Kings. It's also worth noting that there are no hieroglyphs inside the Great Pyramids (which are supposedly said to be tombs), when the Valley of the Kings (an actual tomb) was caked in them. Also, the only written text depicting the construction of the Great Pyramids, that I could find, is (again, supposedly) the Famine Stele. I find it highly questionable that there is only one text that tells us of the most notable construction of ancient Egypt's entire existence, and one of the most notable buildings to date. And not a single hieroglyph amongst the Pyramids' vicinity says anything about it either.
- pavlov 4y agoOver 1000 years passed between the construction of the Great Pyramids and the time when the Valley of the Kings started to be in use. Of course decorative styles would be different! It's not very surprising that we don't have a lot of texts about the construction of buildings that are 4,500 years old. The pyramids are incredibly ancient, and were ancient when later pharaohs tried to understand who built them. For comparison, the Notre Dame of Paris is closer to our time than the Pyramids were to the pharaohs who built their tombs in the Valley of the Kings.
- Eliezer 4y agoI know some of the people involved. I expect that they are honest in saying that this never happened and that Johnson lied. Johnson himself later retracted the statements and his retraction said that he had no direct observation or evidence about the Ted Williams allegation; but this should probably not be regarded as significant evidence apart from my own claims about Alcor's probable honesty, since Alcor did in fact sue him and the book's author for libel.
- t0suj4 4y agoI'm more inclined to believe that boredom in a cryogenics facility would lead to a meeting of a head of Alcor Life Extension Foundation executive and a monkey wrench discussing the difference between expected and actual trajectory after application of force by one of the facility engineers than claims that such events never happened.
- 0xLJK 4y agoThe moment I realized cryonics made sense was when I was close to the moment of death. I am in my early 20s (followed for over10 years) and have been involved with cryonics for over 12 month now. I can recommend anyone to signup. It is very likely that AGI takes over from here but cryonics tries to preserve as much information as possible in this universe. I can only recommend watching Dr. Kendizorra from TomorrowBiostasis who is a real medical Doctor and opened just now in June their newly built Biostasis Facility near Zurich.
- candlemas 4y agoHe's gonna be pissed off when he finds out about that.
- Balgair 4y agoI'll echo this with my own story. Up in Nederland CO, there is the body of Bredo Morstoel. Most years the town holds the Frozen Dead Guy Days festival to celebrate his cryopreservation, complete with ice cream, coffin races, and frozen salmon tossing. Yes really. I've been on the tour of his cryonics 'facility'. It is a Tuff Shed on the side of a mountain next to a chemical toilet and a home-made above ground nuclear bunker (with sliding glass doors). The Morstoel family was ... eccentric. During the 'champagne' tour, you are allowed to help restock Bredo Morstoel's tomb with dry ice and see his coffin. The coffin is in very rough shape and you can easily see his corpse. He is very dead and is never coming back. He looks just like Otzi the Ice Man. There is a lot of mildew in the corners of his styrofoam and plywood cryo-chamber-thing. He is not fully attached together anymore. His caretakers are, honestly, paranoid occult isolated libertarians. Bredo Morstoel's dream isn't ever going to come true. He is dead and rotten now.
- benibela 4y agoI always confuse Ted William with Tad William. The Otherland novel had a great path to immortality