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Mastodon is much nicer than twitter ;)

by busssard 4y ago

0xy 4y ago
With no content, it's a dead platform walking. Screenshots of Twitter don't qualify as real community engagement.
- mewmew07 4y ago
  I feel bad for you.
- detaro 4y ago
  Luckily that's not a problem it actually has.
- ColinWright 4y ago
  If it had no content, you'd be right. But the instance I co-admin has a lot of traffic, and it's of significantly higher quality than I've found on other platforms. Mastodon requires engagement to get your network established, and if you don't bother engaging, you'll get much less from it. If all you want is entertainment and amusement, maybe staying on Twitter is your best bet.
- robert_foss 4y ago
  Find your twitter follows on mastodon: https://fedifinder.glitch.me/ https://fedifinder.glitch.me/ https://twitodon.com/ https://twitodon.com/
- mrpopo 4y ago
  I have more than 20% of my twitter follows on Mastodon at this point. Content discovery is a bit different, need to adjust to it, but so far it's the best experience I've had at decentralized social networks since 20-y. ago IRC.
- kalleboo 4y ago
  In my hobby, Mastodon is absolutely buzzing with activity and feels a lot more alive than Twitter did (possibly because Twitter insisted on ranking mainstream ragebait and populism above mild enthusiast discussion so it would always bury interesting stuff)
- oneeyedpigeon 4y ago
  Likewise, a huge percent of the conversation on Twitter right now is about the present and future of Twitter, so I guess that doesn't qualify as real community engagement either.
esskay 4y ago
Until you have to screw around trying to follow someone who signed up via another server and have to do nonsensicle crap like copying and pasting links to profiles instead of clicking the obvious 'follow' button because it intentionally does not work. It's got a long, long way to become anything close to Twitter.
- sunbum 4y ago
  How would you solve the issue without breaking literally every single security feature of modern browsers?
  - alangibson 4y ago
    By just using Twitter instead. And therein lies the problem.
  - some_furry 4y ago
    Browser extension E.g. https://mstdn.social/@feditips/109507990803168318 https://mstdn.social/@feditips/109507990803168318
  - pcl 4y ago
    I feel like there’s a HTTPS client-cert-based solution out there waiting to be discovered.
  - blagie 4y ago
    Protocols like oauth do just fine, and accomplish the same sorts of goals: - I click "Follow." - Servers talk to each other. - I get redirected to a URL with a unique hash on the other server. It tells me what I'm agreeing to and I agree. - I get redirected back to a URL with a unique hash on the original server. There are a lot of other protocols possible. This one doesn't rely on CSRF or other features, so it should continue working even with security features of future browsers.
    - Kudos 4y ago
      Im not sure you understand the problem. How does the server with the user you want to follow know what server to talk to if all you've done is click "follow"?
Hamuko 4y ago
I disagree. I see like three trends that all seem to be dead, so I have no idea what people in the world are actually talking about. All I see is that about 500 people talked about the FIFA World Cup final game during the past 48 hours, since that's taking two out of three top trends. "Tweets" are much longer, so it no longer feels like microblogging. Sensitive content feels even dumber, I don't want to click "Read more" in order to view a tweet like it was some kind of a ad-bait blog post. If someone sends me their profile link that's not on my instance, I can't actually reply to it. Instead, I need to go to my Mastodon instance and then search for that link in order to actually have an interactable version of that "tweet". Everything also feels slower, possibly because it's having to juggle between so many different instances. And I have no idea if I chose the right Mastodon instance with the right hall admins that won't read my private messages and ban me for having the wrong opinion. I'd much, much rather stay on Twitter. It's just that no one has any idea if it's going to be a viable platform in the future and who are going to stick around there.
- paranoidrobot 4y ago
  > won't read my private messages I heard other folks who're more in the security mindset explain it that you shouldn't just trust your particular fediverse/mastodon instance not to read your private messages. If you have something truly private, exchange contact details for some other secure thing and have that conversation there. For instance, Signal.
- some_furry 4y ago
  > If someone sends me their profile link that's not on my instance, I can't actually reply to it. Instead, I need to go to my Mastodon instance and then search for that link in order to actually have an interactable version of that "tweet". Actually, you have options: https://mstdn.social/@feditips/109507990803168318 https://mstdn.social/@feditips/109507990803168318 > And I have no idea if I chose the right Mastodon instance with the right hall admins that won't read my private messages and ban me for having the wrong opinion. I'm working on that. https://github.com/soatok/mastodon-e2ee-specification https://github.com/soatok/mastodon-e2ee-specification
- infinitezest 4y ago
roomey 4y ago
It is. To the other responders, you have to find people to follow, it is not served up on a plate. So if you feel like it is dead, or only football, spend a while looking for things and people that interest you. To follow people from other instances, just search or follow the link through the instance you are already logged into, and all you have to do is click a follow button. I would recommend looking for an instance that has some sort of similarity with what you are interested in. For example, I joined the Irish instance mastodon.ie so I know there will always be a stream of slightly humourous shite talk in the local time line. But there is also a good infosec instance, and a good quantum research instance. But look, I never liked twitter in the first place, so maybe, yes for twitter people, Mastodon just won't scratch that itch!

Mastodon is much nicer than twitter ;)

0xy 4y ago

With no content, it's a dead platform walking. Screenshots of Twitter don't qualify as real community engagement.

mewmew07 4y ago
I feel bad for you.
detaro 4y ago
Luckily that's not a problem it actually has.
ColinWright 4y ago
If it had no content, you'd be right. But the instance I co-admin has a lot of traffic, and it's of significantly higher quality than I've found on other platforms. Mastodon requires engagement to get your network established, and if you don't bother engaging, you'll get much less from it. If all you want is entertainment and amusement, maybe staying on Twitter is your best bet.
robert_foss 4y ago
Find your twitter follows on mastodon: https://fedifinder.glitch.me/ https://fedifinder.glitch.me/ https://twitodon.com/ https://twitodon.com/
mrpopo 4y ago
I have more than 20% of my twitter follows on Mastodon at this point. Content discovery is a bit different, need to adjust to it, but so far it's the best experience I've had at decentralized social networks since 20-y. ago IRC.
kalleboo 4y ago
In my hobby, Mastodon is absolutely buzzing with activity and feels a lot more alive than Twitter did (possibly because Twitter insisted on ranking mainstream ragebait and populism above mild enthusiast discussion so it would always bury interesting stuff)
oneeyedpigeon 4y ago
Likewise, a huge percent of the conversation on Twitter right now is about the present and future of Twitter, so I guess that doesn't qualify as real community engagement either.

esskay 4y ago

Until you have to screw around trying to follow someone who signed up via another server and have to do nonsensicle crap like copying and pasting links to profiles instead of clicking the obvious 'follow' button because it intentionally does not work. It's got a long, long way to become anything close to Twitter.

sunbum 4y ago
How would you solve the issue without breaking literally every single security feature of modern browsers?
- alangibson 4y ago
  By just using Twitter instead. And therein lies the problem.
- some_furry 4y ago
  Browser extension E.g. https://mstdn.social/@feditips/109507990803168318 https://mstdn.social/@feditips/109507990803168318
- pcl 4y ago
  I feel like there’s a HTTPS client-cert-based solution out there waiting to be discovered.
- blagie 4y ago
  Protocols like oauth do just fine, and accomplish the same sorts of goals: - I click "Follow." - Servers talk to each other. - I get redirected to a URL with a unique hash on the other server. It tells me what I'm agreeing to and I agree. - I get redirected back to a URL with a unique hash on the original server. There are a lot of other protocols possible. This one doesn't rely on CSRF or other features, so it should continue working even with security features of future browsers.
  - Kudos 4y ago
    Im not sure you understand the problem. How does the server with the user you want to follow know what server to talk to if all you've done is click "follow"?

Hamuko 4y ago

I disagree. I see like three trends that all seem to be dead, so I have no idea what people in the world are actually talking about. All I see is that about 500 people talked about the FIFA World Cup final game during the past 48 hours, since that's taking two out of three top trends. "Tweets" are much longer, so it no longer feels like microblogging. Sensitive content feels even dumber, I don't want to click "Read more" in order to view a tweet like it was some kind of a ad-bait blog post. If someone sends me their profile link that's not on my instance, I can't actually reply to it. Instead, I need to go to my Mastodon instance and then search for that link in order to actually have an interactable version of that "tweet". Everything also feels slower, possibly because it's having to juggle between so many different instances. And I have no idea if I chose the right Mastodon instance with the right hall admins that won't read my private messages and ban me for having the wrong opinion. I'd much, much rather stay on Twitter. It's just that no one has any idea if it's going to be a viable platform in the future and who are going to stick around there.

paranoidrobot 4y ago
> won't read my private messages I heard other folks who're more in the security mindset explain it that you shouldn't just trust your particular fediverse/mastodon instance not to read your private messages. If you have something truly private, exchange contact details for some other secure thing and have that conversation there. For instance, Signal.
some_furry 4y ago
> If someone sends me their profile link that's not on my instance, I can't actually reply to it. Instead, I need to go to my Mastodon instance and then search for that link in order to actually have an interactable version of that "tweet". Actually, you have options: https://mstdn.social/@feditips/109507990803168318 https://mstdn.social/@feditips/109507990803168318 > And I have no idea if I chose the right Mastodon instance with the right hall admins that won't read my private messages and ban me for having the wrong opinion. I'm working on that. https://github.com/soatok/mastodon-e2ee-specification https://github.com/soatok/mastodon-e2ee-specification
infinitezest 4y ago

roomey 4y ago

It is. To the other responders, you have to find people to follow, it is not served up on a plate. So if you feel like it is dead, or only football, spend a while looking for things and people that interest you. To follow people from other instances, just search or follow the link through the instance you are already logged into, and all you have to do is click a follow button. I would recommend looking for an instance that has some sort of similarity with what you are interested in. For example, I joined the Irish instance mastodon.ie so I know there will always be a stream of slightly humourous shite talk in the local time line. But there is also a good infosec instance, and a good quantum research instance. But look, I never liked twitter in the first place, so maybe, yes for twitter people, Mastodon just won't scratch that itch!