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Kia’s new EV6, driven
- Kaibeezy 4y agoSo the performance version is way faster but less fun. For even more fun, I’d drive almost any car with a manual transmission over one of these appliances.
- rasz 4y agoTransmission? whers the fun in that? Try riding a horse like real men.
- fragmede 4y agoA horse? Where's the fun in that? Try long distance running, from before horses were domesticated
- Kaibeezy 4y agoRunning? Swinging on vines. Hoot!
- quickthrower2 4y agoTry doing a big bang and starting the universe!
- Kaibeezy 4y agoAgain?
- quickthrower2 4y agoHa ha you youngsters and your time dimension and causality
- pjc50 4y agoFun analogy: horses have about four distinct "gears" (gaits), and there's a certain amount of skill in achieving smooth transitions between them.
- nickserv 4y agoSkill for the rider or the horse?
- slaw 4y agoSkill for the rider. For me 3th gear was the most difficult.
- brianwawok 4y agoThat one time I killed the clutch was rough.
- lionkor 4y agoAbsolutely agree - I still drive my old mini one because its just way more fun than any car ive touched since then, other than pre-1995 porsches, i enjoyed some of those. I wouldnt give the direct feedback of those controlsy and the manual control, for anything.
- rsj_hn 4y ago1970s BMWs - 2002 style -- are great fun as well. 1970s was the golden age of German Auto Engineering.
- interstice 4y agoI have an old mini, 135i manual and ride a motorbike, you could say I’m an enthusiast. but I’d take an EV today if it weighed less than 1.5 tonnes, affordable, had awd and wasn’t essentially an SUV with no clearance. There’s nothing inherently wrong with electric to my mind, but attaching a heavy and huge battery pack is like building a car with a permanently attached boat trailer. Takes the fun out of things a bit. Touch screens can also go. Hopefully this changes in the next generation or two, I really would like to get away from gas.
- fragmede 4y agoYes hopefully! as soon as we collectively get over range anxiety and they sell cars with 50 mile range because that's all you really need when you plug it in at night, most of the time. And bring back the Smart FourTwo sub-sub-compact form factor. All of which will serve to bring the price down immensely.
- fragmede 4y agoIs it really fun to lose the race to someone driving an "appliance"?
- Kaibeezy 4y agoTotally fine. I’m sure they enjoy pressing the ‘go’ button.
- jgilias 4y agoHave you actually driven an EV though? The first time I drove one I was pretty surprised how fun it is. Anything that doesn’t have two exhaust pipes doesn’t even come close to your median EV appliance as far as pure driving fun is considered.
- saturn_vk 4y agoThere's nothing fun in needing to move some stick in a mechanical contraption, especially when driving through a city
- 535188B17C93743 4y agoI will never understand who needs cars this quick. The marketing of EVs seems to be all around 0-60 speeds, but 90% of the people I know are infinitely more concerned with price, charging speed, and range.
- Tempest1981 4y agoThe same reason all cars seem to have 160 mph speedometers.
- rapsey 4y agoBecause EVs are expensive they must appeal to the market who is willing to spend more and that market needs cars to be fun.
- saiya-jin 4y agoFun as acceleration is not really the interesting part of car fun. That's tight cornering, well-balanced front and back, feeling of total control and precision of big chunk of metal and similar. I do mean on regular roads and not just tracks, there its even more crucial. But this requires from manufacturer much more than just slapping a heavy battery and putting the power of it straight to the wheels... whole platform needs to be fine-tuned in many aspects to achieve this. In normal price category BMW delivers this better than most peers in their classical models like 3 series. I had one for 10 years, only 200 HP V6 diesel but it was an excellent car for the driver, I properly enjoyed every drive that wasn't about cities and traffic jams. I certainly never felt I needed more power. Also very well balanced mechanical connection of steering wheel to straight to front wheels gave the connection to the car that no modern electronic cars including Porsche can deliver (and EVs are not even trying in any of this regard). There are problems with this though, most buyers willing to pay premium are in traffic jams and cities, so you are not getting most of the value brands like BMW deliver. Then you are only left with acceleration part (well not that much in those traffic jams). Also it requires driving skills that take years to build with just driving the car (certainly for me, I wasn't using full potential of the car for maybe first 5 years of ownership), unlike just slamming gas pedal and holding steering wheel for your life.
- Gys 4y ago> A day's driving the EV6 GT left me more convinced than ever that the most expensive, most powerful version of an EV is often not really any better than the cheaper version. > Partly that's down to cars having too much performance for the public road, and it's always more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slowly. And more powerful versions of EVs always suffer in terms of range efficiency.
- rgrieselhuber 4y agoFaster to steal too?
- uxp100 4y agoNah, EV (and new ICE) kias and Hyundais can’t be stolen as easily as the 2014(?) to 2021 models (where the non keyless entry models lack immobilizers and alarms on that little window) Better have a garage though, since if it has a Kia badge, it will have its windows smashed anyway.