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Interesting that polling data is different from State Department issuance data. I wonder what the difference is? https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/abo

Interesting that polling data is different from State Department issuance data. I wonder what the difference is? https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/about-us/reports-and-statistics.html https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/about-us/reports-...

ceejayoz 4y ago
It's legal to have two US passports. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/have-passport/second-passport-book.html https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/have-pa...
- ghaff 4y ago
  I have to believe that's in the noise. It's for some very specific purposes and, as I recall, when I looked it up at one point for no particular reason, it was fairly burdensome to do.
  - ceejayoz 4y ago
    Perhaps, but the passport cards aren't at all difficult or rare; you can apply for both in the same form. > 21,995,760 (includes 3,361,037 passport cards) https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/need-passport/card.html https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/need-pa...
    - ghaff 4y ago
      Fair enough. I forgot that you could apply to get both (which basically gives you a spare federal photo ID which is also good for entering Canada or Mexico). I have a Global Entry card so I didn't bother. Not sure what the other stats are counting as passports and if they're double-counting or not. You can also get two passport books--basically for visiting countries that may do visa stamps and which won't admit people with the "wrong" visa stamp--which is what I was talking about.
      - Scoundreller 4y ago
        I think a bigger reason for having multi US passports is how much of a black hole sending your passport to a foreign embassy for a visa can take. A common problem for those that do training/sales around the world for short trips. Sometimes quite amazing how long an embassy can take when it’s one of the country’s big industries you’re heading to to train them on the expensive thing they surely want to maintain…
        ghaff 4y ago
        Although I'm not sure the degree to which getting multiple passports plays into this. Maybe it's easier to get multiple passports these days. Pre-pandemic, I canceled a couple of trips to India for visa issues--wouldn't get back in time for other trips--although my understanding is the situation has improved.
  - kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
    Passport cards are now more readily available since state DMVs can process them as part of the RealID initiative. They're cheaper than a proper passport but I would venture many passport holders have one for convenience.
  - el-salvador 4y ago
    Some of the purposes I remember were: - When needing a passport while the other passport was in visa processing - When needing to travel to a country A that denies entry based on having a passport stamp from country B. Like Azerbaijan/Armenia and Israel/Some Arab countries.
- CobaltFire 4y ago
  For many years I had two US passports; my civilian Blue and my official Maroon. Not quite the same as that link, but there are reasons. For a while my family of four had seven passports, though three of those would be counted for Japan.
- lostlogin 4y ago
  A bit of googling suggests you can have 3 or 4, but I can’t find a US government source on that.
  - ceejayoz 4y ago
    Wouldn't be surprising. Up to two normal passport books, an additional passport card, and a special issuance one (diplomatic, military). Can't use the special ones for personal travel so you'd need both forms.
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ceejayoz 4y ago

It's legal to have two US passports. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/have-passport/second-passport-book.html https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/have-pa...

ghaff 4y ago
I have to believe that's in the noise. It's for some very specific purposes and, as I recall, when I looked it up at one point for no particular reason, it was fairly burdensome to do.
- ceejayoz 4y ago
  Perhaps, but the passport cards aren't at all difficult or rare; you can apply for both in the same form. > 21,995,760 (includes 3,361,037 passport cards) https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/need-passport/card.html https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/need-pa...
  - ghaff 4y ago
    Fair enough. I forgot that you could apply to get both (which basically gives you a spare federal photo ID which is also good for entering Canada or Mexico). I have a Global Entry card so I didn't bother. Not sure what the other stats are counting as passports and if they're double-counting or not. You can also get two passport books--basically for visiting countries that may do visa stamps and which won't admit people with the "wrong" visa stamp--which is what I was talking about.
    - Scoundreller 4y ago
      I think a bigger reason for having multi US passports is how much of a black hole sending your passport to a foreign embassy for a visa can take. A common problem for those that do training/sales around the world for short trips. Sometimes quite amazing how long an embassy can take when it’s one of the country’s big industries you’re heading to to train them on the expensive thing they surely want to maintain…
      - ghaff 4y ago
        Although I'm not sure the degree to which getting multiple passports plays into this. Maybe it's easier to get multiple passports these days. Pre-pandemic, I canceled a couple of trips to India for visa issues--wouldn't get back in time for other trips--although my understanding is the situation has improved.
- kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
  Passport cards are now more readily available since state DMVs can process them as part of the RealID initiative. They're cheaper than a proper passport but I would venture many passport holders have one for convenience.
- el-salvador 4y ago
  Some of the purposes I remember were: - When needing a passport while the other passport was in visa processing - When needing to travel to a country A that denies entry based on having a passport stamp from country B. Like Azerbaijan/Armenia and Israel/Some Arab countries.
CobaltFire 4y ago
For many years I had two US passports; my civilian Blue and my official Maroon. Not quite the same as that link, but there are reasons. For a while my family of four had seven passports, though three of those would be counted for Japan.
lostlogin 4y ago
A bit of googling suggests you can have 3 or 4, but I can’t find a US government source on that.
- ceejayoz 4y ago
  Wouldn't be surprising. Up to two normal passport books, an additional passport card, and a special issuance one (diplomatic, military). Can't use the special ones for personal travel so you'd need both forms.

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