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I haven't seen any improvement in Spotify in years. Still can't organise songs in any meaningful way, can't rate songs, playlists suck, shuffle is broken, and

I haven't seen any improvement in Spotify in years. Still can't organise songs in any meaningful way, can't rate songs, playlists suck, shuffle is broken, and they keep pushing podcast content when I never listen to podcasts. 1Password also used to sync to Dropbox for free and even had an HTML version that could serve from Dropbox.

least 4y ago
Spotify still hasn't reached feature parity with Spotify when it first came out. Only recently did something as basic as lyrics return. It's still not extensible like it once was.
- class4behavior 4y ago
  There were no lyrics all this time? Either it's really hard to get people to pay attention to alternatives like Deezer and Tidal or there is little demand for lyrics.
  - least 4y ago
    Spotify's killer feature at this point is probably that they have an ad-supported tier while none of the other services (that I'm aware of) do... unless you count youtube? I think lyrics was a bit of legal hurdle so Spotify had to get rid of it. I imagine they brought it back recently as they worked out a legal way to provide them again.
    - class4behavior 4y ago
      Nonsense. Most of them do. Deezer even offered a bigger music archive in the beginning. Tidal started as sub only but added a US only free tier, instead it pays its artist much better.
      - least 4y ago
        Apologies, then, my knowledge of the state of music services is apparently quite outdated. Has Deezer always offered a free tier? They're not really on my radar. In either case, I do think some of the points the other comment made are prescient. Spotify Connect is definitely a killer feature and I think Spotify Wrapped is one of those cultural phenomenon that you can't reliably predict the impact of. Network effects definitely seem to be quite powerful.
    - vladvasiliu 4y ago
      To me, Spotify's killer feature is Spotify connect and official Linux support. I keep looking at Deezer for its cheap hi-def support (the premium plan now has FLAC, for the same price as Spotify). But integrations with non-officially sanctioned devices seem janky, at best. Maybe things have improved, but at one point I had a Yamaha receiver, officially supported, which basically replicated the Deezer interface inside the receiver's app. I couldn't control it from my computer. IIRC Tidal was the same. With Spotify, this just works. Bonus points for supporting the use case of "having friends over who can play their music on my stereo". I also use multiple "devices" to play music: phone, personal laptop, work laptop, personal desktops, media PC. I don't know how Deezer's "three registered device limit" is implemented, but I'd hate to have to log in again every time I change the computer.
      - least 4y ago
        You're right, I do think Spotify connect is an absolutely killer feature that I'm surprised it hasn't been replicated by other companies. I'm a fairly happy Apple Music user but that's definitely one of the things I miss about using Spotify. It's truly bizarre for Apple who has fairly good integrations and Music continuity just makes sense. Spotify Wrapped is also kind of a cultural phenomenon. People enjoy sharing and talking about it and I guess it's the default assumption that you're using Spotify so you can easily share playlists and stuff to other users. Spotify has the network that smaller services don't.
- dmitriid 4y ago
  > Only recently did something as basic as lyrics return. Unfortunately, something as basic as lyrics is rife with legal challenges, and you can't just slap it onto an app.
lunarplague 4y ago
I don't understand how come you get podcast content pushed to you, and I have to actively search for podcast content and can't find anything outside of the bubbles I listen to without going to external sources. Also, arguably, shuffle is not broken, it is working as intended, as there is an intended method to shuffle the songs according to popularity, right? Unless they changed that.
- Aeolun 4y ago
  I mean, you only have to open the main Spotify page. I also get podcast content pushed to me (half the main page/search results are always podcasts) and I've never even listened to one.
  - lunarplague 4y ago
    Again, my main spotify page ask me to continue listening to the podcast I already listen to, plus random daily playlist for music(which I actually really like a lot of the time). I don't get new content showed to be all too often, maybe a new artist a week?
- pdntspa 4y ago
  > shuffle the songs according to highest streaming royalty for Spotify FTFY
  - winternett 4y ago
    It also happens with my music player when playing my own library of music, it has actually gotten that bad that even random no longer works as it should. This is why I kept all of my old CDs, Mp3s, and DVDs... One day we're going to have to boycott everything and it will be painful for those who only had subscriptions on entertainment & productivity apps. I'll load up windows 98 if I have to! I'll do it again!
    - seanp2k2 4y ago
      If, by painful, you mean “the need to plug in that old HDD with 100k MP3s”, keep up ratio on private trackers, and end up finding tons of amazing music again, all completely free to do anything I want with, then sure :) Squeezebox Server was awesome, and these days it’s way easier and more accessible to host a media server and playback in ways you want.
locusofself 4y ago
All I want from Spotify is for it to be performant. I hate that it's such a slow and bloated app.
eurasiantiger 4y ago
Shuffle is not broken. It is algorithmic and tries to feed you songs you might want to listen to but Spotify doesn’t need to pay for (that much).
- 314 4y ago
  Shuffle is very broken as it does nit perform a shuffle. Instead it performs random selection with replacement. It is much worse but the devs do not care and insist their way is "right".
- esskay 4y ago
  The several community issues with hundreds of thousands of votes would disagree.
agret 4y ago
I use Spotify in my car over Bluetooth and for the past couple months it has this super annoying bug where you get in, start it playing and it finishes off what song you were listening to but then doesn't continue playing the playlist, it just goes silent and when you open the main app screen there is no playlist in sight. Have to manually re-open a playlist and pick a track to keep it going.
esskay 4y ago
Spotify feels like it's got 1 developer working on it in their spare time. Their feature release timeline is awful and has been for years. I think what makes it worse is that they've got a section of their community site where you can 'vote' for features and bugs to be fixed - why on earth you need a voting system for bugs is beyond me. But overall its pointless, theres feature requests going back nearly a decade with thousands of votes and all they keep saying is "keep voting". How about no, how about you actually update your damn platform.

least 4y ago

Spotify still hasn't reached feature parity with Spotify when it first came out. Only recently did something as basic as lyrics return. It's still not extensible like it once was.

class4behavior 4y ago
There were no lyrics all this time? Either it's really hard to get people to pay attention to alternatives like Deezer and Tidal or there is little demand for lyrics.
- least 4y ago
  Spotify's killer feature at this point is probably that they have an ad-supported tier while none of the other services (that I'm aware of) do... unless you count youtube? I think lyrics was a bit of legal hurdle so Spotify had to get rid of it. I imagine they brought it back recently as they worked out a legal way to provide them again.
  - class4behavior 4y ago
    Nonsense. Most of them do. Deezer even offered a bigger music archive in the beginning. Tidal started as sub only but added a US only free tier, instead it pays its artist much better.
    - least 4y ago
      Apologies, then, my knowledge of the state of music services is apparently quite outdated. Has Deezer always offered a free tier? They're not really on my radar. In either case, I do think some of the points the other comment made are prescient. Spotify Connect is definitely a killer feature and I think Spotify Wrapped is one of those cultural phenomenon that you can't reliably predict the impact of. Network effects definitely seem to be quite powerful.
  - vladvasiliu 4y ago
    To me, Spotify's killer feature is Spotify connect and official Linux support. I keep looking at Deezer for its cheap hi-def support (the premium plan now has FLAC, for the same price as Spotify). But integrations with non-officially sanctioned devices seem janky, at best. Maybe things have improved, but at one point I had a Yamaha receiver, officially supported, which basically replicated the Deezer interface inside the receiver's app. I couldn't control it from my computer. IIRC Tidal was the same. With Spotify, this just works. Bonus points for supporting the use case of "having friends over who can play their music on my stereo". I also use multiple "devices" to play music: phone, personal laptop, work laptop, personal desktops, media PC. I don't know how Deezer's "three registered device limit" is implemented, but I'd hate to have to log in again every time I change the computer.
    - least 4y ago
      You're right, I do think Spotify connect is an absolutely killer feature that I'm surprised it hasn't been replicated by other companies. I'm a fairly happy Apple Music user but that's definitely one of the things I miss about using Spotify. It's truly bizarre for Apple who has fairly good integrations and Music continuity just makes sense. Spotify Wrapped is also kind of a cultural phenomenon. People enjoy sharing and talking about it and I guess it's the default assumption that you're using Spotify so you can easily share playlists and stuff to other users. Spotify has the network that smaller services don't.
dmitriid 4y ago
> Only recently did something as basic as lyrics return. Unfortunately, something as basic as lyrics is rife with legal challenges, and you can't just slap it onto an app.

lunarplague 4y ago

I don't understand how come you get podcast content pushed to you, and I have to actively search for podcast content and can't find anything outside of the bubbles I listen to without going to external sources. Also, arguably, shuffle is not broken, it is working as intended, as there is an intended method to shuffle the songs according to popularity, right? Unless they changed that.

Aeolun 4y ago
I mean, you only have to open the main Spotify page. I also get podcast content pushed to me (half the main page/search results are always podcasts) and I've never even listened to one.
- lunarplague 4y ago
  Again, my main spotify page ask me to continue listening to the podcast I already listen to, plus random daily playlist for music(which I actually really like a lot of the time). I don't get new content showed to be all too often, maybe a new artist a week?
pdntspa 4y ago
> shuffle the songs according to highest streaming royalty for Spotify FTFY
- winternett 4y ago
  It also happens with my music player when playing my own library of music, it has actually gotten that bad that even random no longer works as it should. This is why I kept all of my old CDs, Mp3s, and DVDs... One day we're going to have to boycott everything and it will be painful for those who only had subscriptions on entertainment & productivity apps. I'll load up windows 98 if I have to! I'll do it again!
  - seanp2k2 4y ago
    If, by painful, you mean “the need to plug in that old HDD with 100k MP3s”, keep up ratio on private trackers, and end up finding tons of amazing music again, all completely free to do anything I want with, then sure :) Squeezebox Server was awesome, and these days it’s way easier and more accessible to host a media server and playback in ways you want.

locusofself 4y ago

All I want from Spotify is for it to be performant. I hate that it's such a slow and bloated app.

eurasiantiger 4y ago

Shuffle is not broken. It is algorithmic and tries to feed you songs you might want to listen to but Spotify doesn’t need to pay for (that much).

314 4y ago
Shuffle is very broken as it does nit perform a shuffle. Instead it performs random selection with replacement. It is much worse but the devs do not care and insist their way is "right".
esskay 4y ago
The several community issues with hundreds of thousands of votes would disagree.

agret 4y ago

I use Spotify in my car over Bluetooth and for the past couple months it has this super annoying bug where you get in, start it playing and it finishes off what song you were listening to but then doesn't continue playing the playlist, it just goes silent and when you open the main app screen there is no playlist in sight. Have to manually re-open a playlist and pick a track to keep it going.

esskay 4y ago

Spotify feels like it's got 1 developer working on it in their spare time. Their feature release timeline is awful and has been for years. I think what makes it worse is that they've got a section of their community site where you can 'vote' for features and bugs to be fixed - why on earth you need a voting system for bugs is beyond me. But overall its pointless, theres feature requests going back nearly a decade with thousands of votes and all they keep saying is "keep voting". How about no, how about you actually update your damn platform.