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Remember how George Lucas made Star Wars and became the genius billionaire who could do no wrong. Then he got a divorce and made Howard the Duck (quite possibly

Remember how George Lucas made Star Wars and became the genius billionaire who could do no wrong. Then he got a divorce and made Howard the Duck (quite possibly the worst movie of all time). I think the same thing is happening here. As a startup founder you have guardrails, spouses, investors. You have Brian De Palma rewriting the opening trailer crawl, you have Marcia Lucas helping the edit, and you have your old professor at USC Irvin Kershner guiding your hand. Now, Elon is the wealthiest man in the world and he has turned into Jar Jar Musk. It's time to see how this bird themed turd pans out.

jacquesm 4y ago
I'll have to go watch that now.
- layer8 4y ago
  Maybe watch the pitch meeting first: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3JGmGR9meNc https://youtube.com/watch?v=3JGmGR9meNc
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    That's just weird...
ericzawo 4y ago
This is a phenomenal metaphor that I concur wholeheartedly with and will be stealing. My Star Wars fan friends will understand the point immediately :)
- hyperhopper 4y ago
  This comment really adds nothing that an upvote wouldn't. (Yes, ironic since this comment is just a vocalized downvote, but I figured I'd tell you why)
malteof 4y ago
> Elon is the wealthiest man in the world Second wealthiest now…
SilverBirch 4y ago
If you want a really invaluable insight into the early life of Elon, the interview with his first wife is fantastic- https://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/a5380/millionaire-starter-wife/ https://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/a5380/millionaire-start... . It paints an incredible picture of the man behind the brand and… kind of explains a lot.
- yarg 4y ago
  "I am your wife," I told him repeatedly, "not your employee." "If you were my employee," he said just as often, "I would fire you."
- ThouYS 4y ago
  thanks for that link. that pretty much is exactly how I imagine him. I remember reading Ashley Vance's biography. At some point Elon makes a calculation about how many hours a girlfriend would need.
Keyframe 4y ago
OT, but that take on Lucas has to stop. Was he surrounded by many capable people that contributed to his works in great ways? Of course, that's what collaborative art of movie making is all about. Spielberg movies would probably suffer a lot without Kahn editing them, so would Scorsese's without Thelma Schoonmaker, etc.. Look at the other world-building things Lucas did to gain some perspective on him as an artist - from THX 1138 and Graffiti, over Star Wars OT to Indiana Jones, Willow, and ultimately the prequels - yes, the prequels; Compare their cultural presence and impact (even mentioning Jar Jar here) to what Disney Juggernaut with all of the talent and money couldn't bring to presence. Now, combine that with the gravity around him that brought in people that managed to pull technical wonders of digital video editing (AVID) and image manipulation (Photoshop), and many many other things (THX, Pixar, etc.) on top of all of the legendary businesses that spawned up from Lucas Film itself, to Lucas Arts, Skywalker Sound (THX), and ILM. That's not a coincidence, and not on his ex wife (alone) - that's a bunch of smart and hard-working talented people around guy that told them a story, people including Spielberg, and De Palma, and Coppola... Story which they all liked. Give the guy a break, number of successes around him, and not any of the mentioned individuals, is no coincidence. One Howard the Duck does not his legacy make.
- LarsDu88 4y ago
  I don't want to dunk on Lucas specifically here. I just want to underscore that this kind of "I did it all myself" mentality can infect anyone - even our most creative and talented human beings. The technological achievements of ILM and Lucasfilm stand out to me here. Lucas himself is not an expert in any form of VFX whatsoever, but he left the storytelling to himself, and trusted in experts to execute on his vision at a certain point. No one doubts that the prequels were technologically impressive (Jar Jar included) even if the storytelling was lacklustre, but here Lucas stepped back an enabled his team of experts to do what they did best. When you're young and ambitious you may be more likely to ask for help, and folks may be more willing to give you help. When your in your 50s and a billionare, it just seems that as a society we make it culturally improper for men to ask for help. Sadly, this is also a demographic with a disproprotionately high suicide rate...
Hnrobert42 4y ago
Whoa whoa whoa! Worst movie of all time? I still mutter “Slice salami!” To myself while cutting things.
- fundad 4y ago
  It was a feature film based on a comic book. A trailblazer…
  - LarsDu88 4y ago
    Have you seen Guardians of Galaxy 2? They're bringing Howard back to the MCU yo!
ncallaway 4y ago
I’ve had the exact same though about George Lucas. Having constraints often forces us to listen to other people, take on advice we don’t want to hear, and tamp down our worst excesses. When all external constraints are taken away, it’s probably much more of a challenge to stay grounded. Incidentally, this latest action immediately brought to my mind a Star Wars quote: “The more you tighten your grip, Elon, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.”
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jacquesm 4y ago

I'll have to go watch that now.

layer8 4y ago
Maybe watch the pitch meeting first: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3JGmGR9meNc https://youtube.com/watch?v=3JGmGR9meNc
- jacquesm 4y ago
  That's just weird...

ericzawo 4y ago

This is a phenomenal metaphor that I concur wholeheartedly with and will be stealing. My Star Wars fan friends will understand the point immediately :)

hyperhopper 4y ago
This comment really adds nothing that an upvote wouldn't. (Yes, ironic since this comment is just a vocalized downvote, but I figured I'd tell you why)

malteof 4y ago

> Elon is the wealthiest man in the world Second wealthiest now…

SilverBirch 4y ago

If you want a really invaluable insight into the early life of Elon, the interview with his first wife is fantastic- https://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/a5380/millionaire-starter-wife/ https://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/a5380/millionaire-start... . It paints an incredible picture of the man behind the brand and… kind of explains a lot.

yarg 4y ago
"I am your wife," I told him repeatedly, "not your employee." "If you were my employee," he said just as often, "I would fire you."
ThouYS 4y ago
thanks for that link. that pretty much is exactly how I imagine him. I remember reading Ashley Vance's biography. At some point Elon makes a calculation about how many hours a girlfriend would need.

Keyframe 4y ago

OT, but that take on Lucas has to stop. Was he surrounded by many capable people that contributed to his works in great ways? Of course, that's what collaborative art of movie making is all about. Spielberg movies would probably suffer a lot without Kahn editing them, so would Scorsese's without Thelma Schoonmaker, etc.. Look at the other world-building things Lucas did to gain some perspective on him as an artist - from THX 1138 and Graffiti, over Star Wars OT to Indiana Jones, Willow, and ultimately the prequels - yes, the prequels; Compare their cultural presence and impact (even mentioning Jar Jar here) to what Disney Juggernaut with all of the talent and money couldn't bring to presence. Now, combine that with the gravity around him that brought in people that managed to pull technical wonders of digital video editing (AVID) and image manipulation (Photoshop), and many many other things (THX, Pixar, etc.) on top of all of the legendary businesses that spawned up from Lucas Film itself, to Lucas Arts, Skywalker Sound (THX), and ILM. That's not a coincidence, and not on his ex wife (alone) - that's a bunch of smart and hard-working talented people around guy that told them a story, people including Spielberg, and De Palma, and Coppola... Story which they all liked. Give the guy a break, number of successes around him, and not any of the mentioned individuals, is no coincidence. One Howard the Duck does not his legacy make.

LarsDu88 4y ago
I don't want to dunk on Lucas specifically here. I just want to underscore that this kind of "I did it all myself" mentality can infect anyone - even our most creative and talented human beings. The technological achievements of ILM and Lucasfilm stand out to me here. Lucas himself is not an expert in any form of VFX whatsoever, but he left the storytelling to himself, and trusted in experts to execute on his vision at a certain point. No one doubts that the prequels were technologically impressive (Jar Jar included) even if the storytelling was lacklustre, but here Lucas stepped back an enabled his team of experts to do what they did best. When you're young and ambitious you may be more likely to ask for help, and folks may be more willing to give you help. When your in your 50s and a billionare, it just seems that as a society we make it culturally improper for men to ask for help. Sadly, this is also a demographic with a disproprotionately high suicide rate...

Hnrobert42 4y ago

Whoa whoa whoa! Worst movie of all time? I still mutter “Slice salami!” To myself while cutting things.

fundad 4y ago
It was a feature film based on a comic book. A trailblazer…
- LarsDu88 4y ago
  Have you seen Guardians of Galaxy 2? They're bringing Howard back to the MCU yo!

ncallaway 4y ago

I’ve had the exact same though about George Lucas. Having constraints often forces us to listen to other people, take on advice we don’t want to hear, and tamp down our worst excesses. When all external constraints are taken away, it’s probably much more of a challenge to stay grounded. Incidentally, this latest action immediately brought to my mind a Star Wars quote: “The more you tighten your grip, Elon, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.”

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