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world football championship
by heywhatupboys 4y ago
world football championship
- School-Cotton 4y agoIt’s incredibly annoying how whenever someone calls the game “soccer”, a smug European person pipes up to say that it’s really called “football”. (And yes, I’ve only ever seen Europeans doing this, not people from any of the other parts of the world where it’s also called football). Is it really so hard for you to accept that there are different words for things in different countries, and that not all cultures are identical to your own?
- AlchemistCamp 4y agoTrue. It’s also called soccer in Australia and in Japan (transliterated as サッカー), too. You can’t really expect people in all places to use the same words for things.
- Nux 4y agoIt's incredibly annoying to keep hearing this word, "soccer" is an insult, the game/sport is called "football".
- jzoch 4y agoI mean the british invented the word soccer to describe the sport. They also created the sport itself (in its modern iteration and rules).
- josephmosby 4y agoThe word "soccer" started in England as a slang of "association," which became "assocc" and then "soccer." Americans learned the word from the English. It may also surprise you to learn that water closets are called restrooms in other countries that speak English.
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- School-Cotton 4y agoThis is similar to getting upset that in various countries an apple is called “pomme”, “manzana”, “apple”, etc. Shouldn’t we call it by the name it’s called in whichever country it was first cultivated? In fact no, we shouldn’t, because different languages and dialects have different words for things, and that’s just a fact of life.
- lmm 4y agoIf you're speaking a different language, using a different word is fine. But if you presume to claim to be speaking "English", then you should use the word they use in England.
- School-Cotton 4y agoI claim to speak American English. I don’t recognize any dialect of English, including my own, as the primary one that all others have to follow, because English is a pluricentric language. I’ll never tell someone from England, Ireland, Australia, India, Zimbabwe etc. that their version of English is wrong, and they shouldn’t tell me that mine is either. This phenomenon isn’t unique to English, by the way. Every language spoken in more than one country (AFAIK) has some words that vary between countries. Your argument is a bit ridiculous IMO, it’s like saying neovim should merge every patch that gets merged to vim.
- sasattack 4y agoAnd yet you don't know that the term soccer comes from association football and was coined by the English
- jonstewart 4y agoNot in the USA it isn’t, and this website is hosted in the USA and it seems likely that at least the largest plurality, if not majority, of readers live in the USA.
- heywhatupboys 4y ago> and this website is hosted in the USA of all the arguments in the world this is the worst one. A nationalist leftover reminding us that while the internet has potential for global unity, someone will forcibly drag it down to worldly borders
- School-Cotton 4y agoYou’re the one chiding people for speaking their native language online because it differs from yours.
- plandis 4y agoNothing screams international unity quite like getting upset some people call a game soccer in their normal language.
- nickcox 4y agoThat's not really how the internet works.
- noduerme 4y ago¡Coge tu fútbol! Just means "grab your football" in Spain, but means something completely different in Argentina ;)
- amval 4y agoI don't think anyone would say that in Spain, as long as they are not having a stroke.
- permalac 4y agoVery strong stroke.
- noduerme 4y agoHah. My Spanish is riddled with errors, I admit, even though I lived in Spanish speaking countries for about 5 years. Coger is a word I just completely avoid at all costs. Terminar also. I learn mostly by public embarrassment, and patient explanation, so please tell me why it wouldn't be proper to say "pick up your football" that way?
- amval 4y agoYou are right about the "coger" (to pick up / to fuck) part. But fútbol is just the sport. You'd talk about "coger la pelota / balón". I'd assume is the same in Argentina, but I do not know that for certain.
- elondaits 4y agoIn Argentina “terminar” is OK but “acabar” (almost same meaning) is the dangerous one.
- elondaits 4y agoWe don’t call the ball itself fútbol in Argentina, only the game. The ball is la pelota.
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- sasattack 4y agoIt comes from the phrase association football. You're just ignorant it's a term that's from the same place where football was created
- borissk 4y agoFootball is kind of a logical name for one game and pretty illogical for another. US should just adopt the metric system and start calling their sport handegg :)
- School-Cotton 4y agoBoth games evolved from the collection of related pre-modern games that were all called “football”, as did rugby, Australian football, and some others. In every English-speaking country, whichever of these related games is most popular is simply called “football”. It’s unclear whether the name derives from kicking the ball with the foot (which happens to a greater or lesser extent in all such games), or from the fact that they’re played on foot (rather than e.g. on horseback).
- Archelaos 4y agoOn the etymology of "soccer": 1889, socca, later socker (1891), soccer (1895), originally university slang (with jocular formation -er (3)), from a shortened form of Assoc., abbreviation of association in Football Association (as opposed to Rugby football); compare rugger. An unusual method of formation, but those who did it perhaps shied away from making a name out of the first three letters of Assoc. Compare 1890s English schoolboy slang leccer, from lecture (n.). Source: https://www.etymonline.com/word/soccer https://www.etymonline.com/word/soccer
- philwelch 4y agoTo your point, the first college football game in the US was, simultaneously, the first college soccer game because it took place before the split between soccer and rugby, and the rules were those drafted by the Football Association in England. The rugby rules were adopted by Canadian colleges, who went on to play against American colleges, who adopted the rugby rules and added the initial changes that created American football.
- GeneralMayhem 4y agoA gridiron football is still clearly a ball in function, even if not spherical, just like how a rugby ball is still called a ball. The word "football" has been used to describe games played without kicking for centuries. A possible etymology is that it means not a game played with the feet, but a game played on foot. It could describe any of the games played by peasants, as opposed to the equestrian sports (racing, polo, dressage) played by aristocrats.
- jcul 4y agoIn Ireland we tend to call it soccer, as people use football to refer to Gaelic (Irish) football. I'd imagine any country with a pre-existing sport called "football" would tend to call it soccer.
- class4behavior 4y agoThis needs proper data because a lot of people argue the opposite. The other is then just called gaelic or gaa. Also, soccer was invented by the English, let the virus spread, then switched back to football.
- talideon 4y agoIt's contextual. Whichever you mainly play, you call it 'football'. One of the side effects of us having three kinds of football!
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- eatbitseveryday 4y agoSoccer redirects to “Association football” on Wikipedia. I am American and I find “soccer” to be disingenuous to the sport, since “Football” referring to the ol’ hogskin takes priority but is primarily an American sport.
- elcomet 4y agoI've seen only opposite. I live in Europe and no European I've talked to cares about football or soccer (and they tend to say "soccer" when they speak to Americans) But I've heard a lot of Americans say "no it's called soccer" when they heard the term football
- School-Cotton 4y agoTo be fair, I rarely hear the Europeans I know in real life complaining about it either. It seems to be a purely online phenomenon.
- andypea 4y agoEspecially as many people in the UK call the game soccer. For these people the term football would be used to refer to (Rugby) football.
- wkat4242 4y agoSo the second "F" in "FIFA" stands for "Soccer"? ;)
- School-Cotton 4y agoNo, it stands for "football", which is what soccer is called in French. FIFA is "Fédération internationale de football association". I never claimed that French people couldn’t call things whatever they like in their own language :)
- ls15 4y agoTechnically it is FIFA World Cup, a tournament that is sold to the highest bidder
- googlryas 4y agoRight, and it is country-oriented which is fairly arbitrary, not team-oriented as most football is played. It's possible the best football team in the world(probably the UEFA Champions League champs) could beat the winner of the FIFA World Cup(barring the fact that some of the same players may be on both teams), since the best football team can and does draw from many different countries.
- gpderetta 4y agoI think it is generally understand that the best football clubs would far stronger than the best national teams. At the very least club team players play and train together the whole year, while national teams only have a few weeks every couple of years.
- andrepd 4y agoNational teams play several times a year.
- wslh 4y agoYou missed the basic point: it is not about the UEFA: if you can build a team with the best (team) players in the world, it would beat other teams that are based on nationality or specific leagues like UEFA. If Qatar wants they can build a better team than the UEFA ones. Hint: look at Barça.
- andrepd 4y ago>If Qatar wants they can build a better team than the UEFA ones They definitely could not >Hint: look at Barça. What do you mean
- elorant 4y agoMundial
- markdown 4y agoSoccer Tournament.