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To be fair, Microsoft got the memo, it took all the useful parts of the global menu bar and put them in the start bar, which is itself glued to the bottom of th
by kibwen 4y ago
To be fair, Microsoft got the memo, it took all the useful parts of the global menu bar and put them in the start bar, which is itself glued to the bottom of the screen and thus respects Fitts' Law. Windows did put the application-specific menus into the per-window title bar, but even then the most important part of the title bar is the section with the close/minimize/maximize buttons, and on Windows a maximized window puts those buttons at the edge of the screen, again as per Fitts' Law, whereas Mac disobeys Fitts' Law here and puts those buttons below the global menu bar.
- sph 4y agoGood observation, though Microsoft forgot it (again) when they designed Windows 11 and moved the Start button from the bottom-left corner to somewhere in the middle of the screen.
- kibwen 4y agoYes, I'm not trying to defend their modern design (in)sensibilities. :P I switched from Windows to Linux (with an aborted attempt at Mac) after realizing the OS-level ads weren't going anywhere.
- sovnade 4y agoIt's movable of course, but this is still a downgrade from win10. My biggest peeve is that there seems to be no option anymore to not-condense icons, and you can't change the notification color (when an app flashes its icon). I miss notifications on my work computer all the time because the flash color just doesn't stand out very much with my dark theme, and I can't even expand the width because...well it feels like they released an unfinished and unpolished product, again. I hate that there's trade-offs that shouldn't need to exist with every new version. Meanwhile my mac I don't think has ever lost functionality or customizability in the last..8ish years I've been using it as my daily driver. edit: caveat...this is a work computer and obviously has group policies/etc that might affect things. I will correct this post if I'm wrong :)
- loloquwowndueo 4y agoIt took them 11 years after the first Macintosh was released to “invent” the start menu in Windows 95.
- oefrha 4y ago> Windows did put the application-specific menus into the per-window title bar Except that's not what Windows does. Just about every app has a different place where you can find the menu (if there is one). Looking at a couple Microsoft apps on Windows 11: - File Explorer: menu in an ellipsis in the toolbar; toolbar is left aligned so the ellipsis menu is in the middle of the window for a reasonably wide window. - Edge: menu in an ellipsis to the right of the address bar. - Windows Terminal: menu in a tiny down-facing caret next to the new tab button. - regedit: Old-style menu under the title bar. - Office: you know the ribbons.
- kibwen 4y agoThat's referring to the long-ago time period when MS first decided to forego the global application menu bar in favor of the Windows taskbar. Indeed, the fact that many programs no longer feature traditional menu bars, but that they do still feature close/maximize/minimize buttons in their titlebars, only further reinforces how much more important those buttons are. Even when I used Mac, even when using apps that had useful entries in the global application menu bar, I cannot remember a single instance of voluntarily using the global application menu bar for anything (other than "please close this app", because the year is 2022 and Mac still refuses to acknowledge that closing the last window means I want the app to close).