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Shared404 4y ago
Referring to a trans person by the wrong gender repeatedly is a good example of hate speech. It reminds of an old joke: Conservative: "I keep getting banned for my views" Rando: "Oh, small government?" C: "No, not that one" R: "Oh, so fiscal responsibility?" C: "Not that either" R: "So which ones?" C: "Oh, uh... You know."
- Khaine 4y ago
  No it’s not. Referring to a trans person by the wrong pronouns repeatedly is just rude. It isn’t hate speech That’s just watering down what hate speech is.
  - Shared404 4y ago
    Speech designed to A) Harm the target, who has gone out of their way to avoid that harm already (by transitioning/changing pronouns) B) Dehumanize the target in the eyes of others (this person doesn't matter, their wishes are to be entirely disrespected) seems like a reasonable candidate for hate speech to me.
    - bennies4grojnd 4y ago
      Pointing out that a man who desires to be a woman is still really a man, is an act of speech that neither causes him harm nor dehumanizes him. It's very silly to claim that this is some type of hate.
      - Shared404 4y ago
        Aww, look at you making a throwaway to respond to my comments, it's cute :3 E: Removed the troll feeding bits.
        bennies4grojnd 4y ago
        See, you know it doesn't really make any sense to call this hate speech, otherwise you wouldn't have deflected into accusations of trolling.
        Shared404 4y ago
        Then come back with your real handle and we'll talk. If you're not willing to interact in good faith, it is only safe to assume that you are a troll.
        bennies4grojnd 4y ago
        You are still deflecting.
        Shared404 4y ago
        Ugh, fine. > neither causes harm https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/transphobia#effects-on-mental-health https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/transphobia#effect... > Nor dehumanizes Intentionally causing harm (see above) and pushing for it to be acceptable for others to cause harm is in fact dehumanizing. I note you still fail to present any argument other than "I feel like you're wrong"
        bennies4grojnd 4y ago
        So, let's say that someone (like a user of Twitter, or a writer for the Babylon Bee) points out that Rachel Levine, a public figure, is a man. How does that actually harm him? He's in an incredibly privileged position, and indeed has enjoyed male privilege for pretty much all of his life. Should we avoid saying any truth that might slightly upset a public figure, or anyone really, just in case they feel a bit sad if they happen to hear it?
ciler 4y ago
This isn't an example of someone being banned for being on the political right. Meghan Murphy is a left-wing feminist, she was banned for expressing gender critical views.
- skinnymuch 4y ago
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  - ciler 4y ago
    I think you may be surprised at how many 'TERFs' are dyed-in-the-wool socialists. I know it's convenient to paint this as some left-right political split, but the truth of the matter is quite different. Look up the history of radical feminism - it didn't originate on the political right, quite the opposite. Meghan Murphy in particular is a left-wing, socialist, radical feminist, who was raised in a Marxist household. This is no secret, you can search her work online to confirm all this, she's pro-unions, pro-socialism, and speaks against the right on numerous political matters. Her ban from Twitter was caused by referring to a male (Johnathan/Jessica Yaniv), who was suing female beauticians for refusing to wax his bollocks, as "him". Now I don't know about you, but I would think if you're going around flashing your testicles to women and demanding they touch them, that is very much a proof of being a man. I mean, you don't find women popping their hairy balls out to be plucked, and haranguing women who politely demur, do you? Nonetheless, Twitter moderators disagreed. To them, this was the bushy scrotum of a woman. So Murphy was canned.
    - skinnymuch 4y ago
      You can't be (a) a socialist and (b) not believe trans people are the gender they identify with It goes against the essence of socialism and communism. I know who TERF non-socialist Meghan Murphy is. You can see here that she is not a leftist: https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/06/08/why-i-left-the-left/ https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/06/08/why-i-left-the-left... She keeps saying she is. She doesn't understand (I mean I'm sure she does, but she's a lying bigot) that socialism and all the wonders of it don't work if youre being a SWERF and TERF. Things don't work that way. You have to want better conditions for every one. Otherwise...how are we giving people equal chances to succeed? I think the problem is the vast majority of people have no clue what socialism is. Most people have read no socialist texts, but are inundated with right wing and capitalistic propaganda all the time. tldr: SWERFs and TERFs are not leftists. Like how people like Jordan Peterson (before), Tim Pool, Dave Rubin are all right wingers through and through, but keep pretending they are centrists. You have to act the act. Not just talk. This applies to Meghan Murphy too. I have spent dozens and dozens and dozens of hours getting into TERFs. Radical feminism didn't originate on the political right, but at this point trans people are dying and in danger. This is abundantly clear to any dyed-in-the-wool socialists in the 2020s. Even if it wasn't clear decades ago. Or even a decade ago. Unfortunately you showed your true colors deadnaming Jessica and using the incorrect pronouns.

Shared404 4y ago

Referring to a trans person by the wrong gender repeatedly is a good example of hate speech. It reminds of an old joke: Conservative: "I keep getting banned for my views" Rando: "Oh, small government?" C: "No, not that one" R: "Oh, so fiscal responsibility?" C: "Not that either" R: "So which ones?" C: "Oh, uh... You know."

Khaine 4y ago
No it’s not. Referring to a trans person by the wrong pronouns repeatedly is just rude. It isn’t hate speech That’s just watering down what hate speech is.
- Shared404 4y ago
  Speech designed to A) Harm the target, who has gone out of their way to avoid that harm already (by transitioning/changing pronouns) B) Dehumanize the target in the eyes of others (this person doesn't matter, their wishes are to be entirely disrespected) seems like a reasonable candidate for hate speech to me.
  - bennies4grojnd 4y ago
    Pointing out that a man who desires to be a woman is still really a man, is an act of speech that neither causes him harm nor dehumanizes him. It's very silly to claim that this is some type of hate.
    - Shared404 4y ago
      Aww, look at you making a throwaway to respond to my comments, it's cute :3 E: Removed the troll feeding bits.
      - bennies4grojnd 4y ago
        See, you know it doesn't really make any sense to call this hate speech, otherwise you wouldn't have deflected into accusations of trolling.
        Shared404 4y ago
        Then come back with your real handle and we'll talk. If you're not willing to interact in good faith, it is only safe to assume that you are a troll.
        bennies4grojnd 4y ago
        You are still deflecting.
        Shared404 4y ago
        Ugh, fine. > neither causes harm https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/transphobia#effects-on-mental-health https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/transphobia#effect... > Nor dehumanizes Intentionally causing harm (see above) and pushing for it to be acceptable for others to cause harm is in fact dehumanizing. I note you still fail to present any argument other than "I feel like you're wrong"
        bennies4grojnd 4y ago
        So, let's say that someone (like a user of Twitter, or a writer for the Babylon Bee) points out that Rachel Levine, a public figure, is a man. How does that actually harm him? He's in an incredibly privileged position, and indeed has enjoyed male privilege for pretty much all of his life. Should we avoid saying any truth that might slightly upset a public figure, or anyone really, just in case they feel a bit sad if they happen to hear it?

ciler 4y ago

This isn't an example of someone being banned for being on the political right. Meghan Murphy is a left-wing feminist, she was banned for expressing gender critical views.

skinnymuch 4y ago
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- ciler 4y ago
  I think you may be surprised at how many 'TERFs' are dyed-in-the-wool socialists. I know it's convenient to paint this as some left-right political split, but the truth of the matter is quite different. Look up the history of radical feminism - it didn't originate on the political right, quite the opposite. Meghan Murphy in particular is a left-wing, socialist, radical feminist, who was raised in a Marxist household. This is no secret, you can search her work online to confirm all this, she's pro-unions, pro-socialism, and speaks against the right on numerous political matters. Her ban from Twitter was caused by referring to a male (Johnathan/Jessica Yaniv), who was suing female beauticians for refusing to wax his bollocks, as "him". Now I don't know about you, but I would think if you're going around flashing your testicles to women and demanding they touch them, that is very much a proof of being a man. I mean, you don't find women popping their hairy balls out to be plucked, and haranguing women who politely demur, do you? Nonetheless, Twitter moderators disagreed. To them, this was the bushy scrotum of a woman. So Murphy was canned.
  - skinnymuch 4y ago
    You can't be (a) a socialist and (b) not believe trans people are the gender they identify with It goes against the essence of socialism and communism. I know who TERF non-socialist Meghan Murphy is. You can see here that she is not a leftist: https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/06/08/why-i-left-the-left/ https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/06/08/why-i-left-the-left... She keeps saying she is. She doesn't understand (I mean I'm sure she does, but she's a lying bigot) that socialism and all the wonders of it don't work if youre being a SWERF and TERF. Things don't work that way. You have to want better conditions for every one. Otherwise...how are we giving people equal chances to succeed? I think the problem is the vast majority of people have no clue what socialism is. Most people have read no socialist texts, but are inundated with right wing and capitalistic propaganda all the time. tldr: SWERFs and TERFs are not leftists. Like how people like Jordan Peterson (before), Tim Pool, Dave Rubin are all right wingers through and through, but keep pretending they are centrists. You have to act the act. Not just talk. This applies to Meghan Murphy too. I have spent dozens and dozens and dozens of hours getting into TERFs. Radical feminism didn't originate on the political right, but at this point trans people are dying and in danger. This is abundantly clear to any dyed-in-the-wool socialists in the 2020s. Even if it wasn't clear decades ago. Or even a decade ago. Unfortunately you showed your true colors deadnaming Jessica and using the incorrect pronouns.