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Twitter is going to implode soon, and take Tesla down with it. It’s gonna be interesting to watch…

by tacker2000 4y ago

europeanguy 4y ago
That would be hugely disappointing for all the people calling out Elon Musk as a scammer for his Tesla work for many years now. I'm sure those people would rather see Tesla go down due to its failures, rather than because of Twitter.
- phoe-krk 4y ago
  > I'm sure those people would rather see Tesla go down due to its failures, not because of Twitter. Tesla's most important failure is Musk. That's why TSLA shareholders are trying hard to oust him.
  - europeanguy 4y ago
    I get your point, but on the other hand, Musk (and his hyping/scamming) is the only reason why anyone even knows about Tesla. Were it not for him, Tesla would just be one of many (tens?) of struggling car makers. So sure, Elon Musk has been very bad for Tesla, but before that he was very good for Tesla's valuation.
    - phoe-krk 4y ago
      His hyping/scamming: is it good for Tesla, or is it bad for everyone else though?
    - Eddy_Viscosity2 4y ago
      True, but that's in the past. If Telsa wants to flourish into the future, it will be without Musk. He did his part, and made himself billions in the process - from a Tesla perspective its time to move on.
- quantified 4y ago
  Self-driving scam aside, people do seem to like their Tesla cars.
  - europeanguy 4y ago
    Those who paid for a Cybertruck pre-order, or a Tesla Semi pre-order, aren't enjoying them. EDIT: Quick google says Tesla took 1.5M Cybertruck pre-orders. Assuming each costs $100k, how much is that? People get riled up with SBF, but this guy is on another league.
    - basch 4y ago
      Cybertruck preorders cost $100, not $100K.
      - europeanguy 4y ago
        Got it, he only swindled $150M then. Thanks for confirming.
xqcgrek2 4y ago
Interesting prediction. Got any shorts or are you just going to watch?
- kasey_junk 4y ago
  Twitter is extremely hard to short right now…
- Gigachad 4y ago
  Of course they don't. People predict the end of social media sites all the time and nothing ever happens. Anyone on reddit around the Ellen Pao saga will remember the whole site was predicted to die and be replaced with Voat shortly. You'd go on reddit and the whole of /r/all and most sub front pages was just posts about how reddit was dead. Nothing happened. Then there was the youtube Google+ comments and redesign drama. Nothing happened. Things are even less dramatic on Twitter, you can go on the app now and it looks pretty much exactly like it did last year.
  - kasey_junk 4y ago
    Yeah same thing with digg. People kept saying after v4 they were going to tank.
- alamortsubite 4y ago
  Sadly just watching, as Twitter is no longer publicly traded.
  - xqcgrek2 4y ago
    But Tesla isn't, which is what the OP also has certainty about.
rvz 4y ago
> Twitter is going to implode soon. Sure. Real soon, this time!™ Like it was supposed to implode immediately last month, yet it didn't and nothing happened. So once again, what we are seeing here is a manufactured storm in a tea cup peddled by emotional techies defending the lack of enforcement of illegal content like child exploitation and CP being spread on Twitter for years. I guess those angry about that can find such content very easily on federated social networks. Not on Twitter this time.
- mustacheemperor 4y ago
  Musk's most recent verifiable act related to child exploitation enforcement on Twitter was disbanding the council responsible for it. Other than what he has claimed in his tweets, what reason do you have to think there have been other changes to enforcing that content on twitter that have made it more effective?
  - kodyo 4y ago
    The council of which you speak was apparently ineffective enough to get themselves fired, so I don't know how you'd measure that.
    - nickthegreek 4y ago
      What is measurable is the amount of staff that was working and is currently working the problem. From all reports I’ve seen, it’s less.
      - kodyo 4y ago
        You must be in management.
- fullshark 4y ago
  They didn't crash but they may have murdered their ad revenue and brand based on external reporting. The hasty Twitter Blue launch was a disaster. https://www.wsj.com/articles/twitters-advertising-truth-hurts-11670706720 https://www.wsj.com/articles/twitters-advertising-truth-hurt...

Twitter is going to implode soon, and take Tesla down with it. It’s gonna be interesting to watch…

That would be hugely disappointing for all the people calling out Elon Musk as a scammer for his Tesla work for many years now. I'm sure those people would rather see Tesla go down due to its failures, rather than because of Twitter.

phoe-krk 4y ago
> I'm sure those people would rather see Tesla go down due to its failures, not because of Twitter. Tesla's most important failure is Musk. That's why TSLA shareholders are trying hard to oust him.
- europeanguy 4y ago
  I get your point, but on the other hand, Musk (and his hyping/scamming) is the only reason why anyone even knows about Tesla. Were it not for him, Tesla would just be one of many (tens?) of struggling car makers. So sure, Elon Musk has been very bad for Tesla, but before that he was very good for Tesla's valuation.
  - phoe-krk 4y ago
    His hyping/scamming: is it good for Tesla, or is it bad for everyone else though?
  - Eddy_Viscosity2 4y ago
    True, but that's in the past. If Telsa wants to flourish into the future, it will be without Musk. He did his part, and made himself billions in the process - from a Tesla perspective its time to move on.
quantified 4y ago
Self-driving scam aside, people do seem to like their Tesla cars.
- europeanguy 4y ago
  Those who paid for a Cybertruck pre-order, or a Tesla Semi pre-order, aren't enjoying them. EDIT: Quick google says Tesla took 1.5M Cybertruck pre-orders. Assuming each costs $100k, how much is that? People get riled up with SBF, but this guy is on another league.
  - basch 4y ago
    Cybertruck preorders cost $100, not $100K.
    - europeanguy 4y ago
      Got it, he only swindled $150M then. Thanks for confirming.

xqcgrek2 4y ago

Interesting prediction. Got any shorts or are you just going to watch?

kasey_junk 4y ago
Twitter is extremely hard to short right now…
Gigachad 4y ago
Of course they don't. People predict the end of social media sites all the time and nothing ever happens. Anyone on reddit around the Ellen Pao saga will remember the whole site was predicted to die and be replaced with Voat shortly. You'd go on reddit and the whole of /r/all and most sub front pages was just posts about how reddit was dead. Nothing happened. Then there was the youtube Google+ comments and redesign drama. Nothing happened. Things are even less dramatic on Twitter, you can go on the app now and it looks pretty much exactly like it did last year.
- kasey_junk 4y ago
  Yeah same thing with digg. People kept saying after v4 they were going to tank.
alamortsubite 4y ago
Sadly just watching, as Twitter is no longer publicly traded.
- xqcgrek2 4y ago
  But Tesla isn't, which is what the OP also has certainty about.

rvz 4y ago

> Twitter is going to implode soon. Sure. Real soon, this time!™ Like it was supposed to implode immediately last month, yet it didn't and nothing happened. So once again, what we are seeing here is a manufactured storm in a tea cup peddled by emotional techies defending the lack of enforcement of illegal content like child exploitation and CP being spread on Twitter for years. I guess those angry about that can find such content very easily on federated social networks. Not on Twitter this time.

mustacheemperor 4y ago
Musk's most recent verifiable act related to child exploitation enforcement on Twitter was disbanding the council responsible for it. Other than what he has claimed in his tweets, what reason do you have to think there have been other changes to enforcing that content on twitter that have made it more effective?
- kodyo 4y ago
  The council of which you speak was apparently ineffective enough to get themselves fired, so I don't know how you'd measure that.
  - nickthegreek 4y ago
    What is measurable is the amount of staff that was working and is currently working the problem. From all reports I’ve seen, it’s less.
    - kodyo 4y ago
      You must be in management.
fullshark 4y ago
They didn't crash but they may have murdered their ad revenue and brand based on external reporting. The hasty Twitter Blue launch was a disaster. https://www.wsj.com/articles/twitters-advertising-truth-hurts-11670706720 https://www.wsj.com/articles/twitters-advertising-truth-hurt...