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> The "rules" are whatever he makes up on the spot. He paid for that privilege.

ceejayoz 4y ago
Sure, and he has that privilege. He's making rules he promised not to, and we don't have to pay for the privilege to criticize that hypocrisy.
- andrewinardeer 4y ago
  It is disingenuous to argue that "free speech" includes all speech. People making bomb or mass shooting threats get arrested all the time. You shouldn't have people fear for their lives.
  - ceejayoz 4y ago
    > It is disingenuous to argue that "free speech" includes all speech. Elon Musk himself argued this exact specific thing is included. Nov 6, 2022, https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456: "My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk"
  - kevinmchugh 4y ago
    I missed it if the jet tracking accounts made threats
  - lovich 4y ago
    What does the phrase “free speech absolutist” mean to you? He’s described himself as one, and I can’t see a way to square the idea that he says he is a free speech absolutist with the excuse that free speech is hard to regulate in the real world. He’s either a moron or was incapable of understanding even first level consequences of his actions or he’s an actual moron
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  - comte7092 4y ago
    The goalpost movers have logged on.
nickthegreek 4y ago
Well he got his friends to help pay too.. so it’s all of their privilege.
robbiep 4y ago
Sure. I don’t think anyone would debate his capacity to do what he wants to his own toy. But it is certainly worthwhile pointing out the hypocrisy of his statements. When people’s words don’t line up with their actions you should be wary.
- hgdfhgdfhgdfbgf 4y ago
  The flight tracker account led to a dangerous situation for his toddler son. Any father would do the same thing.
  - richbell 4y ago
    This is demonstrably false; Elon didn't even file a police report. > Sweeney said he hasn't received any notification of legal action, and the last time his bot tweeted anything was Dec. 12, "which is not last night, so I don’t get how that’s connected.” https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/twitter-suspends-elon-jet-account-that-tracked-elon-musk-plane-rcna61718 https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/twitter-suspe... Did you really create a new account just to spread misinformation?
    - Laaas 4y ago
      s/spread misinformation/spread what they believe to be true/
      - richbell 4y ago
        Indeed, though not necessarily mutually exclusive. I have personally seen the claim debunked on numerous platforms almost immediately after it was made, however, I concede that someone else may not have been exposed to that yet.
  - dmix 4y ago
    He's fighting a wave of Striesand Effect and he knows it (by tweeting https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603576251125362688 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603576251125362688) This approach won't solve the problem. Especially for a celebrity. Twitter's censorship was dumb before, but this is equally or even dumber by being so prominent and kicking the bees nest.
ulfw 4y ago
And we all have the privilege of leaving a network that is turning fascist and joining Mastodon. Now that he forbid people from posting links to that too: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkEg9iyUUAAUFI6?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkEg9iyUUAAUFI6?format=jpg&name=...
matkoniecz 4y ago
And I have privilege to make fun of richest people in the world if they are hypocrite liars flailing more than me in the legacy codebase. And also when they are not hypocrite flailing liars.

Sure, and he has that privilege. He's making rules he promised not to, and we don't have to pay for the privilege to criticize that hypocrisy.

andrewinardeer 4y ago
It is disingenuous to argue that "free speech" includes all speech. People making bomb or mass shooting threats get arrested all the time. You shouldn't have people fear for their lives.
- ceejayoz 4y ago
  > It is disingenuous to argue that "free speech" includes all speech. Elon Musk himself argued this exact specific thing is included. Nov 6, 2022, https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456: "My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk"
- kevinmchugh 4y ago
  I missed it if the jet tracking accounts made threats
- lovich 4y ago
  What does the phrase “free speech absolutist” mean to you? He’s described himself as one, and I can’t see a way to square the idea that he says he is a free speech absolutist with the excuse that free speech is hard to regulate in the real world. He’s either a moron or was incapable of understanding even first level consequences of his actions or he’s an actual moron
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- comte7092 4y ago
  The goalpost movers have logged on.

nickthegreek 4y ago

Well he got his friends to help pay too.. so it’s all of their privilege.

robbiep 4y ago

Sure. I don’t think anyone would debate his capacity to do what he wants to his own toy. But it is certainly worthwhile pointing out the hypocrisy of his statements. When people’s words don’t line up with their actions you should be wary.

hgdfhgdfhgdfbgf 4y ago
The flight tracker account led to a dangerous situation for his toddler son. Any father would do the same thing.
- richbell 4y ago
  This is demonstrably false; Elon didn't even file a police report. > Sweeney said he hasn't received any notification of legal action, and the last time his bot tweeted anything was Dec. 12, "which is not last night, so I don’t get how that’s connected.” https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/twitter-suspends-elon-jet-account-that-tracked-elon-musk-plane-rcna61718 https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/twitter-suspe... Did you really create a new account just to spread misinformation?
  - Laaas 4y ago
    s/spread misinformation/spread what they believe to be true/
    - richbell 4y ago
      Indeed, though not necessarily mutually exclusive. I have personally seen the claim debunked on numerous platforms almost immediately after it was made, however, I concede that someone else may not have been exposed to that yet.
- dmix 4y ago
  He's fighting a wave of Striesand Effect and he knows it (by tweeting https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603576251125362688 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603576251125362688) This approach won't solve the problem. Especially for a celebrity. Twitter's censorship was dumb before, but this is equally or even dumber by being so prominent and kicking the bees nest.

ulfw 4y ago

And we all have the privilege of leaving a network that is turning fascist and joining Mastodon. Now that he forbid people from posting links to that too: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkEg9iyUUAAUFI6?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkEg9iyUUAAUFI6?format=jpg&name=...

matkoniecz 4y ago

And I have privilege to make fun of richest people in the world if they are hypocrite liars flailing more than me in the legacy codebase. And also when they are not hypocrite flailing liars.