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To give this more context, Vern Unsworth was mocking Elon Musks attempts to help on request of the lead diver, after providing many batteries and engineers time

To give this more context, Vern Unsworth was mocking Elon Musks attempts to help on request of the lead diver, after providing many batteries and engineers time to work on a solution. Vern himself was not an actual diver in the rescue.

dekhn 4y ago
He wasn't a rescue diver, he was the local expert, having mapped the cave and knowing more about its structure than anybody else in the world. he was truly qualified to say that Elon's attempt wasn't going to work and was hogging to much attention.
- hndamien 4y ago
  But he initiated being derisive and mocking of another person whom was personally invited to help by the dive team. Contributed time and resources to the effort as per the instruction of the lead diver. Doesn't sound particularly heroic. People love to leave this out of the story that Vern Unsworth brought it on himself by initiating the negativity, wasn't a diver, and ultimately lost his case.
  - RavingGoat 4y ago
    That still doesn't excuse Elon though. If you respond to this comment by mocking me for being clueless does that give me the right to call you a pedo? It shouldn't.
    - hndamien 4y ago
      Not his finest moment for sure, but it was proportionally retaliatory in context.
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    Unsworth had a bunch of lives to save and his response to Musk was - given the circumstances - a lot more courteous than I would have been in the same situation.
    - hndamien 4y ago
      The children were already safe at the time he made the comment.
  - dekhn 4y ago
    Yes, I agree he (vern) did "initiate it being derisive". It was a poor choice made by a person who was currently working in an active emergency that was being seen by the whole world. And I do know that he lost his case- a real shame in my mind. He was a diver- just not a rescue diver in this case.
- postingawayonhn 4y ago
  He didn't just say it wasn't going to work though, he told Elon to stick his submarine "where it hurts". That said, Musk's comments were unnecessary.

dekhn 4y ago

He wasn't a rescue diver, he was the local expert, having mapped the cave and knowing more about its structure than anybody else in the world. he was truly qualified to say that Elon's attempt wasn't going to work and was hogging to much attention.

hndamien 4y ago
But he initiated being derisive and mocking of another person whom was personally invited to help by the dive team. Contributed time and resources to the effort as per the instruction of the lead diver. Doesn't sound particularly heroic. People love to leave this out of the story that Vern Unsworth brought it on himself by initiating the negativity, wasn't a diver, and ultimately lost his case.
- RavingGoat 4y ago
  That still doesn't excuse Elon though. If you respond to this comment by mocking me for being clueless does that give me the right to call you a pedo? It shouldn't.
  - hndamien 4y ago
    Not his finest moment for sure, but it was proportionally retaliatory in context.
- jacquesm 4y ago
  Unsworth had a bunch of lives to save and his response to Musk was - given the circumstances - a lot more courteous than I would have been in the same situation.
  - hndamien 4y ago
    The children were already safe at the time he made the comment.
- dekhn 4y ago
  Yes, I agree he (vern) did "initiate it being derisive". It was a poor choice made by a person who was currently working in an active emergency that was being seen by the whole world. And I do know that he lost his case- a real shame in my mind. He was a diver- just not a rescue diver in this case.
postingawayonhn 4y ago
He didn't just say it wasn't going to work though, he told Elon to stick his submarine "where it hurts". That said, Musk's comments were unnecessary.