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I can execute a TAS speed run of any game I want in a couple clicks. So why do speedrunners still exist then if they can never hope to match TAS? I can open St

I can execute a TAS speed run of any game I want in a couple clicks. So why do speedrunners still exist then if they can never hope to match TAS? I can open Stockfish and absolutely destroy any human I want in chess. So why do people still play chess then? I can get ChatGPT to write a good response to your comment in mere moments. So why am I still typing?

GartzenDeHaes 4y ago
A few months after being defeated by AlphaGo, Lee Sedol retired from profession Go. He said, "Even if I become the number one, there is an entity that cannot be defeated." And, "As a professional Go player, I never want to play this kind of match again." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Sedol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Sedol
- bavila 4y ago
  That seems more like a testament to the intensity of someone who does X to be the "best" at it, rather than someone who does X for the fun of it. Go became more than just a game to him -- it was his identity.
- ALittleLight 4y ago
  For myself, I don't like to play online Go against humans, because I hate to lose. Instead, I play against a computer with a difficulty rating of around 1-3 dan, and whenever things start going badly for me I just undo moves and try again. Sometimes I ask the computer for advice on what move to make. My experience of Go is that I always win against a player who is much better than me. I find it pretty satisfying.
- skeaker 4y ago
  And yet there are millions of people that play Go who will never be anywhere close to as good as Lee and continue to play it after he quit.
- samus 4y ago
  It seems he based his ego on the idea of being the very best Go player, instead of merely being the best human Go player.
tintor 4y ago
"So why am I still typing?" Because ChatGPT is currently overloaded by users.
moffkalast 4y ago
> So why am I still typing? So you don't have to give OpenAI your phone number, hah.

GartzenDeHaes 4y ago

A few months after being defeated by AlphaGo, Lee Sedol retired from profession Go. He said, "Even if I become the number one, there is an entity that cannot be defeated." And, "As a professional Go player, I never want to play this kind of match again." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Sedol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Sedol

bavila 4y ago
That seems more like a testament to the intensity of someone who does X to be the "best" at it, rather than someone who does X for the fun of it. Go became more than just a game to him -- it was his identity.
ALittleLight 4y ago
For myself, I don't like to play online Go against humans, because I hate to lose. Instead, I play against a computer with a difficulty rating of around 1-3 dan, and whenever things start going badly for me I just undo moves and try again. Sometimes I ask the computer for advice on what move to make. My experience of Go is that I always win against a player who is much better than me. I find it pretty satisfying.
skeaker 4y ago
And yet there are millions of people that play Go who will never be anywhere close to as good as Lee and continue to play it after he quit.
samus 4y ago
It seems he based his ego on the idea of being the very best Go player, instead of merely being the best human Go player.

tintor 4y ago

"So why am I still typing?" Because ChatGPT is currently overloaded by users.

moffkalast 4y ago

> So why am I still typing? So you don't have to give OpenAI your phone number, hah.