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Don’t buy a game that requires constant intervention from the maker to run, if you’re concerned about that.

by nkrisc 4y ago

pbhjpbhj 4y ago
Would be nice if games for which time-limited licenses were being sold told you upfront so you could choose. Not sure how you're supposed to know a game has been designed to be remotely deactivated?
- MikusR 4y ago
  GOG.com The few that require online connection (like purely multiplayer gwent) there is a notice.
- nkrisc 4y ago
  If the game requires an internet connection, it's a time-limited license.
  - StanislavPetrov 4y ago
    And what about games like minecraft, where the requirement for an internet connection was added later, after the game was sold?
    - nkrisc 4y ago
      Stay on the last internet-free version. I remember when games were sold and that was it, you didn’t get regular free updates.
bakugo 4y ago
It's so easy for someone who doesn't care about games to say "just don't play those games" What if I like those games? What if I barely have a choice because 95% of multiplayer games released today work like that?
- HideousKojima 4y ago
  >What if I like those games? What if I barely have a choice because 95% of multiplayer games released today work like that? Then you (and countless consumers like you) have guaranteed that the greedy assholes forcing always online DRM etc. win. Vote with your wallet, life is too short to give money to people who hate you and who don't respect your rights.
  - bakugo 4y ago
    "Vote with your wallet" is a stupid concept that makes no sense because there was never any vote in the first place. > life is too short to give money to people who hate you and who don't respect your rights Okay, so where are the people who don't hate me and respect my rights? I don't see them anywhere. My choices here are 1. Play DRM-ridden always online garbage or 2. Stop playing games entirely (or at least multiplayer ones)
    - HideousKojima 4y ago
      >Okay, so where are the people who don't hate me and respect my rights? I don't see them anywhere. GOG, and plenty of indie devs and smaller devs. There's a whole world of games out there beyond $FlavorOfTheMonthFPS. Or you could just continue your preferred method of "Don't question, just consume product and then get excited for next product."
  - alkonaut 4y ago
    Then you give up any chance of playing what I'd call "modern multiplayer games" for (presumably) decades, so that maybe a different generation can get better games. A noble cause, but no thanks I think I'd rather just feed the greedy companies and play some games then. Unless of course you can enjoy some other game almost as much, then it's a small sacrifice to stick it to the greedy companies. But I'm not enjoying indie or retro games much at all.
  - npteljes 4y ago
    I agree that life is too short, but I arrived at a different conclusion, which is that it's too short to care about DRM that much. I set up a separate operating system only used for gaming, and so they can have all the intrusive anti-cheat and DRM and whatnot, because it's effectively an empty system, not even knowing my real name. As far as I'm concerned, the greedy assholes have already won, I won't really make a difference here. But I can have a good time, and that good time will be more or less on my terms.

Don’t buy a game that requires constant intervention from the maker to run, if you’re concerned about that.

by nkrisc 4y ago

Don’t buy a game that requires constant intervention from the maker to run, if you’re concerned about that.

Would be nice if games for which time-limited licenses were being sold told you upfront so you could choose. Not sure how you're supposed to know a game has been designed to be remotely deactivated?

MikusR 4y ago
GOG.com The few that require online connection (like purely multiplayer gwent) there is a notice.
nkrisc 4y ago
If the game requires an internet connection, it's a time-limited license.
- StanislavPetrov 4y ago
  And what about games like minecraft, where the requirement for an internet connection was added later, after the game was sold?
  - nkrisc 4y ago
    Stay on the last internet-free version. I remember when games were sold and that was it, you didn’t get regular free updates.

bakugo 4y ago

It's so easy for someone who doesn't care about games to say "just don't play those games" What if I like those games? What if I barely have a choice because 95% of multiplayer games released today work like that?

HideousKojima 4y ago
>What if I like those games? What if I barely have a choice because 95% of multiplayer games released today work like that? Then you (and countless consumers like you) have guaranteed that the greedy assholes forcing always online DRM etc. win. Vote with your wallet, life is too short to give money to people who hate you and who don't respect your rights.
- bakugo 4y ago
  "Vote with your wallet" is a stupid concept that makes no sense because there was never any vote in the first place. > life is too short to give money to people who hate you and who don't respect your rights Okay, so where are the people who don't hate me and respect my rights? I don't see them anywhere. My choices here are 1. Play DRM-ridden always online garbage or 2. Stop playing games entirely (or at least multiplayer ones)
  - HideousKojima 4y ago
    >Okay, so where are the people who don't hate me and respect my rights? I don't see them anywhere. GOG, and plenty of indie devs and smaller devs. There's a whole world of games out there beyond $FlavorOfTheMonthFPS. Or you could just continue your preferred method of "Don't question, just consume product and then get excited for next product."
- alkonaut 4y ago
  Then you give up any chance of playing what I'd call "modern multiplayer games" for (presumably) decades, so that maybe a different generation can get better games. A noble cause, but no thanks I think I'd rather just feed the greedy companies and play some games then. Unless of course you can enjoy some other game almost as much, then it's a small sacrifice to stick it to the greedy companies. But I'm not enjoying indie or retro games much at all.
- npteljes 4y ago
  I agree that life is too short, but I arrived at a different conclusion, which is that it's too short to care about DRM that much. I set up a separate operating system only used for gaming, and so they can have all the intrusive anti-cheat and DRM and whatnot, because it's effectively an empty system, not even knowing my real name. As far as I'm concerned, the greedy assholes have already won, I won't really make a difference here. But I can have a good time, and that good time will be more or less on my terms.