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The thing he actually doesn't want everyone to realise is that he is a dumbass billionaire who goes on costly trips all the time. As soon as the world sees him
by gregoriol 4y ago
The thing he actually doesn't want everyone to realise is that he is a dumbass billionaire who goes on costly trips all the time. As soon as the world sees him as the kiddo who happens to have whims and does whatever he want with the mass of money he has (he bought twitter just for fun?), his aura will be over.
- kolinko 4y agoIt's not about providing info that he flies a lot, but about sharing his live location without consent. Imagine someone kept posting a tweet about your every trip - when you left, when and where you will arrive. Twitter TOS are one thing, but I'm quite sure such things break EU's GDPR laws as well.
- hanspeter 4y agoWhat part of GDPR are you quite sure is violated and by who?
- blitzar 4y agoAnd which one of Elon Musk, elonjets, Elons Gulfstream or San Francisco is in the EU?
- jzb 4y agoA lot of public figures are under scrutiny like this. You ask others to imagine what it’s like to have location shared without consent. But, you’re ignoring all the shit Elon does as well as all the ways he voluntarily forced himself into the public eye. Elon wants the luxury of saying and doing anything he wants without accountability. This is a tiny way for the public to push back. No sympathy.
- tomcam 4y ago> Elon wants the luxury of saying and doing anything he wants without accountability. Prove it
- oblio 4y agoIt takes about 5 minutes of reading his tweets to "Prove it"...
- the_only_law 4y agoAh yes, the art of the non answer. Probably one of the most prominent arts on HN.
- oblio 4y agoThere you go: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603235998263123969?s=20&t=ZoaARr19puxyC3TDQhTiSA https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603235998263123969?s=20... Musk is doxxing someone while having banned the jet tracker he accused of doxxing (which was using public information... ) AND multiple reporters just reporting the story.
- tomcam 4y agoSo, no proof. Thank you.
- oblio 4y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34012991 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34012991
- 1jbdg 4y agoIt’s public information… it’s also not his location, it’s the location of his jet
- cinntaile 4y agoHis live location is not being shared. The live location of his plane is. This info is public in the EU as well, it's mandatory to broadcast it.
- devnullbrain 4y agoInstead they merely sell it to advertising companies.
- berkes 4y agoInvestors and marketwatch is very interested in this data. Because it can be used to build cases on mergers, bankruptcy, management changes and so forth. If the private jet of a Shell manager is seen to fly to a Phillipine island a few times in a month, and the private jet of a manager of a Phillipine drilling company then flies to Amsterdam, it's likely that Shell is going to buy, build or anything over there.
- stuaxo 4y agoHe doesn't have to fly in a private jet.
- icare_1er 4y agoWhen you managed several companies headquartered in various places in the US, you have to.
- CaptainZapp 4y agoBut then he shall stop representing himself as the savior of humanity with uber-green credentials. Otherwise he's just an uber-hypocrite.
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- macintux 4y agoThere are plenty of jets available for private hire.
- icare_1er 4y agoTrue, does that apply to renting a car or a bike everyday rather than buying one then ? Grotesque.
- oblio 4y agoFirst of all, when you're the CEO of what, 5 companies at the same time? you're probably not working that much. Or being a CEO should be a part time job, 20% of regular working hours. Secondly: Twitter is in San Francisco, Neuralink is in San Francisco, Tesla is in Austin, The Boring Company is in an Austin suburb, SpaceX is in the LA metro area. I'm quite sure there are regular commercial flights each day between Austin, San Francisco and LA. Let's be real here, he just uses a private jet because it's cool and convenient.
- axlee 4y agoIt's about tracking a plane which ALREADY has its location tracked by a transponder and published publicly. Like every other non-military plane in the world. Nothing is unusual there, except that this data is posted to Twitter. A plane is not an individual.
- itsoktocry 4y ago>but about sharing his live location without consent. I'm trying to figure out if all of the people repeating this line are social media bots, or what. This information is public and it's widely available on many other apps (I was getting ads on Twitter for alternatives last night). Banning the Twitter account doesn't do much, and through the Streisand Effect will just direct ne'er-do-wells to alternatives.
- mccorrinall 4y agoHe was kinda forced to buy twitter in the end. He made a bid, but then the marketed turned red, and then didn’t want to buy it anymore. Now he is stuck with a company which generates less earnings than the interest costs from the buyout credits. That’s also why he is even firing the kitchen staff and selling their kitchen appliances. He is so desperate for money to keep this company from bankrup. Which is also probably the reason why he plays with QAnon stuff. I think he is speculating on someone to take twitter away from him. Maybe.
- bananapub 4y agohe wasn't "forced", he signed an agreement to buy it, and then did. he failed to do any due diligence before signing and failed to include any outs in the agreement in case he changed his mind, but that's just stupidity or laziness, not being forced into something.
- cj 4y agoThat’s like saying “I just bought a house for $4.20 million because I think 420 is a funny number, but now I’m suing the seller because I just realized I can’t afford the mortgage payments because my stock portfolio declined in value after the purchase” That’s life. No one should have sympathy from Elon for making bad financial decisions. He’s smarter than that.
- twawaaay 4y agoI don't care about costly trips. I mean, he has billions and works a lot. Spending a million here and million there is pretty frugal compared to some other people who need to prove their worth by upping each other on who has the largest yacht in the world. What I do care about, though, is hypocrisy.
- axlee 4y agoYou should care about his costly trips. As an individual, he is wrecking the environment at a rate a thousandfold of the average person.
- tamaharbor 4y agoOr a very small fraction of a volcano.
- pedrossmelo 4y agoLmao "at least elon's jet is not a volcano"
- TheLoafOfBread 4y agoYou can say that about anyone, suddenly pollution is then non-issue.
- tamaharbor 4y agoWe need to adapt to climate change, rather than try and stop it, which is probably impossible.
- Geezus-42 4y agoWe need to do both. Change is coming, no stopping that, but how much change we can effect.
- jamiegreen 4y ago
- icare_1er 4y agoHe's going back and forth between various headquarters of companies he owns and manages.
- mysterydip 4y agoWhy does he need to be there in person?
- mlrtime 4y agoWhy not? He is CEO, he owns the jets. If he wants to take a 1 hour meeting in person in another state that is his call. If people have a problem with the carbon footprint they should be promoting all around higher energy use taxes. Not using a strawman against someone they hate.
- mysterydip 4y agoCertainly it's his perogative and he's free to do what he wants. If I had as many businesses as he does, I would think a teleconference would be a more efficient use of my time, rather than the time spent physically traveling somewhere.
- icare_1er 4y agoI hope Musk sees your free advice on how to run a business, he would miss a gem.
- ChuckNorris89 4y agoAll business owners love seeing the workers busy on their plantations.
- icare_1er 4y agoBecause he leads by example, and because that's his company, not that of "mysterydip4" from the Internetz ?
- mach1ne 4y agoWhy has even HN comment field lowered to nothing but blind hate? Say what you want but the man has reformed rocket technology and jumpstarted the world's shift to electrical vehicles, both against all odds. Hate-takes like this are silly.
- nathell 4y agoNo he hasn’t. The collective work of employees of companies he has stake in has.
- stevefan1999 4y agoAgreed. The workers provided value for him. He decided to take it all
- inglor_cz 4y agoWas there ever a successful collective of the kind that the Left dreams about? If not, doesn't it indicate that CEOs are pretty important in the business scheme of things?
- zanellato19 4y agoDo you mean was there any field that was advanced through the use of public funds? Yes, a lot of scientific advancement comes from exactly that.
- jacquesm 4y agoYes. Mondragon.
- rmellow 4y agoAgreed. Surely the workers would have gotten together on their own, pooled their resources and achieved at least as much as they have if it weren't for Musk. /s Seriously, this is just blind hate. He's a deeply flawed individual and I definitely think he's a jerk, but he's at least he's taking risk on creating something actually new. The richest people I know made money on "safe" industries like civil engineering and plastic bag manufacturing. Pushing the aerospace industry? Challenging the petrol status quo by making EVs viable? Credit where credit is due, he put in the investment and pushed people to make it happen. Obviously not single handedly, but surely accelerated it.
- joshsyn 4y ago
- peepee1982 4y agoThe first sentence might be true, but the second one has it exactly wrong. The unpredictalbe kiddo with too much money is his aura.
- pibechorro 4y agoElon has recently come out as concerned for his life. Death threats and what not. Someone tracking his every move is of concern under those circumstances.
- micromacrofoot 4y agoflight data is public record, if he’s scared he should use another method of transportation
- immmmmm 4y agodo you really trust someone who is pushing MAGA conspiracies and inciting to violence against 'woke' people?
- LightG 4y agoHeard of Yoel Roth? Reap what you sow.