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> appreciate how now there's someone to complain to if my neighbor strews garbage everywhere and it starts blowing to my front door Littering onto your propert
by jjav 4y ago
> appreciate how now there's someone to complain to if my neighbor strews garbage everywhere and it starts blowing to my front door
Littering onto your property is rarely allowed, so you can call the non-emergency local police number.
There's no need to impose the radical restrictions of HOAs to solve problems that already have simple solutions without any of the downsides.
- bluecalm 4y agoYou can complain but they won't do anything about it more often than not. You need small local government to care about those things. I live in a country without HOAs and it's a nightmare. Everyone does how they pleases: noise, polluting junk cars, garbage in common areas, illegal parking on pedestrian paths etc. I am lucky enough to be able to afford a large land area to put my future home on and fence the rest. If I ever wanted to allow others to build their houses there I would certainly want a set of rules - that is HOA.
- watwut 4y agoI live in country without HOA and it is no hellhole like you described. Pretty clearly seems to me, HOAs are really not required for any of that.
- bluecalm 4y agoIt won't be hell in some places but it will be in many. Your argument is akin to: "my neighbours are well behaved so clearly polluting/noisy neighbours are not a problem". It is a problem and if you don't have mechanism to deal with it is sheer luck if you manage to avoid it.
- watwut 4y agoYour argument amounted to "there is one person claiming city around is very dirty therefore police is not responsive enough in many places".
- c22 4y agoGP's point was that HOAs are often more responsive to "nuisance crimes" than the local police. Why not address that with your response? Are the police more responsive where you live? Why do you think that's the case? Obviously HOAs aren't the only way to solve a problem, but they do work for some things.
- emodendroket 4y agoBesides that, the HOA enforcers aren’t walking around with guns. Really seems like overkill to use the cops for this.
- gs17 4y agoMy old city had employees specifically for code enforcement who AFAIK weren't outfitted the same as the police.
- watwut 4y agoMy comment addressed exactly what GP said. He had specific anecdote, I has specific contra anecdote.
- c22 4y agoOkay, but all I learned from your two anecdotes is that there are places where more local government is required to keep the peace and other places where it isn't. I still have no insight into why this is the case or whether or not HOAs are the best solution to the problem.
- emodendroket 4y agoIs calling the cops on your neighbor supposed to be a kinder gentler alternative solution? My HOA also provides services like landscaping that are just plain not the cops’ job.