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I’m amazed that 21 years after September 11th we are still taking our shoes off to get on airplanes. Meanwhile we still do not have federally mandated sick day

I’m amazed that 21 years after September 11th we are still taking our shoes off to get on airplanes. Meanwhile we still do not have federally mandated sick days despite having a recent pandemic with a death toll of several hundred more people. I say this as the son of someone who almost died of Covid in march of 2020 because a coworker decided to keep coming into work when their spouse was in the hospital with a confirmed case.

laweijfmvo 4y ago
nit pick, but this actually wasn't a direct result of 9-11, rather it occurred a few months later: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reid He failed to detonate his shoes and no one was killed/injured from this incident (unlike 9-11).
- cosmotic 4y ago
  911 based measures enabled all the follow on nonsense like shoes and liquid limits.
- ryathal 4y ago
  Fortunately, sanity prevailed after the underwear bombing failed.
Mechanical9 4y ago
The majority of US law / government process is pretty much off-limits to change due to political gridlock. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gridlock_(politics)#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gridlock_(politics)#United_Sta...
brianwawok 4y ago
Can leave your shoes on if you do precheck. Takes you back to 2000 level security. No body scan or taking laptops out of bags either.
- Cyberdog 4y ago
  The qualifications for PreCheck are onerous and expensive. I'd argue that it might be unconstitutional as well since it basically allows you to pay your way into a lower level of harassment by government authorities. I mean, that's kind of how our system works anyway, but it's not supposed to be codified like that.
  - sitkack 4y ago
    My pre check interview was in a cube inside of staples by a nice Latino lady. They didn’t even ask why I am a Marxist or about my donations the ACLU. Now being asked by a border agent in a London why I was away from the US for 9 months was creepy.

laweijfmvo 4y ago

nit pick, but this actually wasn't a direct result of 9-11, rather it occurred a few months later: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reid He failed to detonate his shoes and no one was killed/injured from this incident (unlike 9-11).

cosmotic 4y ago
911 based measures enabled all the follow on nonsense like shoes and liquid limits.
ryathal 4y ago
Fortunately, sanity prevailed after the underwear bombing failed.

Mechanical9 4y ago

The majority of US law / government process is pretty much off-limits to change due to political gridlock. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gridlock_(politics)#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gridlock_(politics)#United_Sta...

brianwawok 4y ago

Can leave your shoes on if you do precheck. Takes you back to 2000 level security. No body scan or taking laptops out of bags either.

Cyberdog 4y ago
The qualifications for PreCheck are onerous and expensive. I'd argue that it might be unconstitutional as well since it basically allows you to pay your way into a lower level of harassment by government authorities. I mean, that's kind of how our system works anyway, but it's not supposed to be codified like that.
- sitkack 4y ago
  My pre check interview was in a cube inside of staples by a nice Latino lady. They didn’t even ask why I am a Marxist or about my donations the ACLU. Now being asked by a border agent in a London why I was away from the US for 9 months was creepy.