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Waymo was collecting data before Tesla, and switched to simulated training a long time ago because it's more effective. The self driving AI can gain 100 years

• panick21_ 4y ago
  Tesla uses simulation to but there is no replacement for real world data. The real world is crazy and Tesla can see people driving in real condition from Alaska to Miami Florida.
  • 1024core 4y ago
    Amateurs think that "simulation" is all you need. They see realistic environments on their PS4s and XBoxes and think that's enough. If simulated data were enough, why _hasn't_ Waymo launched in placed like NYC or Boston?
    • minsc_and_boo 4y ago
      If you think driverless car training in simulations is a playstation game, then you're projecting with your comment. Also, because of weather. Waymo just went live with full driverless for the public in Phoenix. Tesla can't do full driverless so I think that evidence settles the debate of simulated vs. data collection, unless you have evidence otherwise?
      • panick21_ 4y ago
        If the goal was to spend 10 billion on establishing a money losing operation in Phoenix then maybe you would have point. But in fact that isn't actually why 10 billion $ were invested.
        • minsc_and_boo 4y ago
          Waymo is the first fully driverless vehicles to market, which Tesla has yet to deliver, so the fact you calling it a "losing operation" shows your confirmation bias here. Did you buy a Tesla with this promise, perhaps? You still didn't answer the question - where's the evidence?