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A real job offer for working in an European Project in the Systems area of CESGA EGI-ACE (Supercomputation Center of Galicia, Advanced computation platform for

A real job offer for working in an European Project in the Systems area of CESGA EGI-ACE (Supercomputation Center of Galicia, Advanced computation platform for open science based in data), October 2022. North Spain. Requisite for the job: Speaking Galician language, or a signed compromise to learn it Enough said. EU often seems clueless about were to look or how to attract talent. The job offers sometimes seem redacted by clowns. Example: "We want somebody to work in our L.A headquarters, Requisite, Not living in L.A. for the last three years" (example based in a real case, I had seen also the opposite). If they have a hiring problem this damage is a totally self-inflicted one.

YorkshireSeason 4y ago
Exactly. > Advanced computation platform for open science based in data I'd be interested to learn how the salary compares with a FAANG job in SV.
- pvaldes 4y ago
  I was unable to find the salary anywhere (It seems that nobody though that it could be an interesting data for the candidates, so I assume that is subpar). Most documents written in Galician only, Spanish seems totally absent and only a few pages were translated to English. Having all of this in mind, this phrase was not a big surprise: "En 06/06/2022 quedou deserta esta praza por falta de candidatos que cumpran os requisitos, polo que resulta necesario facer de novo esta convocatoria para cubrir o posto" If you speak Galician can read: "Due to lack of candidates to comply the requirements in 06/06/2022 it is necessary to make this call again [October] to cover the position." (It means also that the EU money granted for hiring somebody in this period of time has vanished and can't be recovered so the job offer is now for 8 months, instead a full year).
crote 4y ago
The latter might be a tax thing. For example, in The Netherlands we have the "vrije vergoeding van extraterritoriale kosten". Long story short, if a Dutch company recruits an expert worker from outside The Netherlands, they are allowed to pay 30% of the salary tax-free for 5 years. Considering the salary tax at that level is nearly 50%, it's a significant difference. I would not be surprised if other countries have similar methods to recruit foreign high-quality workers. As for the former: it might be the case that the position is funded by an institution requiring a certain percentage of people employed by the project to speak the language. Stuff like that is not at all uncommon for subsidies. Alternatively, it might simply be the working language for the company. If you're going to develop a platform which will be used solely by people in Galicia, with an interface in Galician, it is not too weird to expect the people creating them to understand the language as well. But yeah, Europe is a diverse continent. You can't really work with a one-size-fits-all model.

YorkshireSeason 4y ago

Exactly. > Advanced computation platform for open science based in data I'd be interested to learn how the salary compares with a FAANG job in SV.

pvaldes 4y ago
I was unable to find the salary anywhere (It seems that nobody though that it could be an interesting data for the candidates, so I assume that is subpar). Most documents written in Galician only, Spanish seems totally absent and only a few pages were translated to English. Having all of this in mind, this phrase was not a big surprise: "En 06/06/2022 quedou deserta esta praza por falta de candidatos que cumpran os requisitos, polo que resulta necesario facer de novo esta convocatoria para cubrir o posto" If you speak Galician can read: "Due to lack of candidates to comply the requirements in 06/06/2022 it is necessary to make this call again [October] to cover the position." (It means also that the EU money granted for hiring somebody in this period of time has vanished and can't be recovered so the job offer is now for 8 months, instead a full year).

crote 4y ago

The latter might be a tax thing. For example, in The Netherlands we have the "vrije vergoeding van extraterritoriale kosten". Long story short, if a Dutch company recruits an expert worker from outside The Netherlands, they are allowed to pay 30% of the salary tax-free for 5 years. Considering the salary tax at that level is nearly 50%, it's a significant difference. I would not be surprised if other countries have similar methods to recruit foreign high-quality workers. As for the former: it might be the case that the position is funded by an institution requiring a certain percentage of people employed by the project to speak the language. Stuff like that is not at all uncommon for subsidies. Alternatively, it might simply be the working language for the company. If you're going to develop a platform which will be used solely by people in Galicia, with an interface in Galician, it is not too weird to expect the people creating them to understand the language as well. But yeah, Europe is a diverse continent. You can't really work with a one-size-fits-all model.