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I use Firefox as my only browser. I've used every mainstream browser for every mainstream OS over the last 25 years or so. It definitely meets the criteria for

I use Firefox as my only browser. I've used every mainstream browser for every mainstream OS over the last 25 years or so. It definitely meets the criteria for "modern functioning browser." I'm curious, why do you say it's not a "modern functioning browser?" What are your criteria for that label?

pipeline_peak 4y ago
Lookup any online benchmarks, Chrome outperforms Firefox in most cases. A lot of sites are dropping support as well. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32388863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32388863
- matkoniecz 4y ago
  "is a bit slower than Chrome if you do not take into account ad blocking" is would be much better claim than "every feature except a modern functioning browser"
- Shared404 4y ago
  > Lookup any online benchmarks, Chrome outperforms Firefox in most cases. Until you recognize that ad-blocking works properly and will continue to work properly in Firefox. I don't care if the site renders renders even 5000x faster if it's not making an actual impact on usage, or if it becomes unreadable due to ad's.
  - pipeline_peak 4y ago
    > Until you recognize that ad-blocking works properly and will continue to work properly in Firefox. And how long do you think Mozilla can sustain the worlds largest ad blocker as all competing browsers progress?
    - tristan957 4y ago
      Firefox has grown support for Manifest V3 in addition to keep the blocking web request API from Manifest V2. What do you mean? Firefox is progressing with the all the other competing browsers.
    - crtasm 4y ago
      I note that Chrome's progress with the switch to Manifest v3 is now on hold. https://www.ghacks.net/2022/12/13/google-delays-chrome-manifest-v3-rollout-once-again/ https://www.ghacks.net/2022/12/13/google-delays-chrome-manif...
- yamtaddle 4y ago
  Safari outperforms both on watts-consumed-per-browsing-hour, which I personally care about a whole lot more than how quickly it can complete benchmarking tasks, and yet I'd not claim Chrome or FF aren't "modern functioning browser[s]".
- wpietri 4y ago
  I am not convinced you know what the word "functioning" means given that your main complaint is about speed.
- guerrilla 4y ago
  Irrelevant FUD in reality. Firefox does everything I want, and the others don't. I'm currently running this Linux box at 800Mhz this week (for unrelated reasons) and everything works fine. One single exception: Facebook.com runs slow as dirt. That is due to the very complex extension (FBPurity) I use on it to remove the ads and other trash from that site.

pipeline_peak 4y ago

Lookup any online benchmarks, Chrome outperforms Firefox in most cases. A lot of sites are dropping support as well. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32388863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32388863

matkoniecz 4y ago
"is a bit slower than Chrome if you do not take into account ad blocking" is would be much better claim than "every feature except a modern functioning browser"
Shared404 4y ago
> Lookup any online benchmarks, Chrome outperforms Firefox in most cases. Until you recognize that ad-blocking works properly and will continue to work properly in Firefox. I don't care if the site renders renders even 5000x faster if it's not making an actual impact on usage, or if it becomes unreadable due to ad's.
- pipeline_peak 4y ago
  > Until you recognize that ad-blocking works properly and will continue to work properly in Firefox. And how long do you think Mozilla can sustain the worlds largest ad blocker as all competing browsers progress?
  - tristan957 4y ago
    Firefox has grown support for Manifest V3 in addition to keep the blocking web request API from Manifest V2. What do you mean? Firefox is progressing with the all the other competing browsers.
  - crtasm 4y ago
    I note that Chrome's progress with the switch to Manifest v3 is now on hold. https://www.ghacks.net/2022/12/13/google-delays-chrome-manifest-v3-rollout-once-again/ https://www.ghacks.net/2022/12/13/google-delays-chrome-manif...
yamtaddle 4y ago
Safari outperforms both on watts-consumed-per-browsing-hour, which I personally care about a whole lot more than how quickly it can complete benchmarking tasks, and yet I'd not claim Chrome or FF aren't "modern functioning browser[s]".
wpietri 4y ago
I am not convinced you know what the word "functioning" means given that your main complaint is about speed.
guerrilla 4y ago
Irrelevant FUD in reality. Firefox does everything I want, and the others don't. I'm currently running this Linux box at 800Mhz this week (for unrelated reasons) and everything works fine. One single exception: Facebook.com runs slow as dirt. That is due to the very complex extension (FBPurity) I use on it to remove the ads and other trash from that site.