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Care to highlight interesting examples and industries for us unlearned?

by anotherstalker 4y ago

qaq 4y ago
Most high end Soviet Nuclear weapons were designed by KB Yuzhnoye and built by Yuzhmash in Dnepr(Dnepropetrovsk).
- shmerl 4y ago
  As well as rocket engines like RD-8.
nosianu 4y ago
I just wanted to ask Google to find a more comprehensive list, but I was reminded of a serious search issue that I would like to see addressed at some point: Especially whenever there is a current event with lots of news it is nearly impossible to find anything that is too close to the subject. It would be great to be able to restrict search to older results, to avoid being in the shadow of more recent articles. Even adding "USSR" did not help at all, almost everything I got was related to recent events. I've had this problem sooo many times in the past already. Google is way too focused on the latest information. Just yesterday somebody also pointed this out in a comment, about that website link that made it to the HN homepage that help find the right glue for two different materials, which was an example for an old rarely changing but still relevant website. Anyway, on topic, here's a list that I found starting out from trying to widen the search from the starting point that I knew Antonov is Ukrainian: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_design_bureaus_in_Ukraine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_design_bureaus_in_Ukra... https://www.value.today/headquarters/ukraine https://www.value.today/headquarters/ukraine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_of_Ukraine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_of_Ukraine "Donbas: What’s Ukraine Losing—Industrial Hub, Breadbasket or Both?" -- https://www.russiamatters.org/blog/donbas-whats-ukraine-losing-industrial-hub-breadbasket-or-both https://www.russiamatters.org/blog/donbas-whats-ukraine-losi... Here is a video showing a pretty cool - albeit pretty unreliable, according to what I read - 1960s motorbike that was made in Ukraine: https://youtu.be/DvxcK645HF0 https://youtu.be/DvxcK645HF0 -- Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnepr_(motorcycle) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnepr_(motorcycle). Dnepr (Ukrainian: Дніпро) is a motorcycle brand produced in Kyiv. I became interested in this bike while reading this RR story from a Ukrainian author - with lots of brilliant author-made painting-illustratiuons (if you open the inline images in a new tab you will find they are a much bigger resolution; It's worth scrolling through the chapters even without reading anything, just for those pictures): https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/54085/the-armorer-and-the-infinite-dungeon-progression https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/54085/the-armorer-and-the-...
p_l 4y ago
A lot of rocket/spaceship control systems and related components were designed and produced in Electrophibor in Kharkiv, East Ukraine. Yangel OKB, designers of the frankly speaking ridiculously overpowered R-36 ICBM series was in Ukraine (including work for turning R-36 into Tsyklon and Dnepr satellite launchers), as well as teams responsible for Zenit carrier rocket (also used as boosters on Energia). There was also other R&D and manufacturing works scattered across Ukraine, but outside of those and already mentioned Antonov they were mostly related to areas that weren't my hobby so I can't recite them from memory. Lots of heavy industry related to tanks and related vehicles near Kharkiv, at least. EDIT: Also, post USSR breakup Ukraine ended up having to run a nuclear "weapons" program despite disavowing nuclear weapons - because they had full chain nuclear weapons industry from raw materials to final warhead assembly, and it was considered good idea to keep those people employed lest they be hired out by more militant places.
Waterluvian 4y ago
The sole Russian Carrier today was built and docked in Ukraine. When the USSR collapsed Russia stole and basically destroyed it out of sheer incompetence.
- chokolad 4y ago
  > The sole Russian Carrier today was built and docked in Ukraine. When the USSR collapsed Russia stole and basically destroyed it out of sheer incompetence. That's strictly due to geography. There are not too many places in USSR where one can build decently sized wharfs.
  - Waterluvian 4y ago
    Indeed geography has a well-recorded way of shaping civilizations, cultures, and their competencies.
    - dopidopHN 4y ago
      Are you referring to Jared Diamond? My understanding is that he overstepped his boundary as a scientist here and lack recognition for that particular theory. But I’m a random guy; I might be off base myself
      - deleted 4y ago
        [deleted]
- nradov 4y ago
  True, but even if Ukraine had retained the Admiral Kuznetsov they wouldn't have been able to afford to operate it. They don't have the infrastructure or escort vessels that would have been needed. So, if they had kept the ship it would be rusting at the dock or broken up for scrap (which would be better for everyone).

Care to highlight interesting examples and industries for us unlearned?

qaq 4y ago

Most high end Soviet Nuclear weapons were designed by KB Yuzhnoye and built by Yuzhmash in Dnepr(Dnepropetrovsk).

shmerl 4y ago
As well as rocket engines like RD-8.

nosianu 4y ago

I just wanted to ask Google to find a more comprehensive list, but I was reminded of a serious search issue that I would like to see addressed at some point: Especially whenever there is a current event with lots of news it is nearly impossible to find anything that is too close to the subject. It would be great to be able to restrict search to older results, to avoid being in the shadow of more recent articles. Even adding "USSR" did not help at all, almost everything I got was related to recent events. I've had this problem sooo many times in the past already. Google is way too focused on the latest information. Just yesterday somebody also pointed this out in a comment, about that website link that made it to the HN homepage that help find the right glue for two different materials, which was an example for an old rarely changing but still relevant website. Anyway, on topic, here's a list that I found starting out from trying to widen the search from the starting point that I knew Antonov is Ukrainian: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_design_bureaus_in_Ukraine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_design_bureaus_in_Ukra... https://www.value.today/headquarters/ukraine https://www.value.today/headquarters/ukraine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_of_Ukraine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_of_Ukraine "Donbas: What’s Ukraine Losing—Industrial Hub, Breadbasket or Both?" -- https://www.russiamatters.org/blog/donbas-whats-ukraine-losing-industrial-hub-breadbasket-or-both https://www.russiamatters.org/blog/donbas-whats-ukraine-losi... Here is a video showing a pretty cool - albeit pretty unreliable, according to what I read - 1960s motorbike that was made in Ukraine: https://youtu.be/DvxcK645HF0 https://youtu.be/DvxcK645HF0 -- Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnepr_(motorcycle) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnepr_(motorcycle). Dnepr (Ukrainian: Дніпро) is a motorcycle brand produced in Kyiv. I became interested in this bike while reading this RR story from a Ukrainian author - with lots of brilliant author-made painting-illustratiuons (if you open the inline images in a new tab you will find they are a much bigger resolution; It's worth scrolling through the chapters even without reading anything, just for those pictures): https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/54085/the-armorer-and-the-infinite-dungeon-progression https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/54085/the-armorer-and-the-...

p_l 4y ago

A lot of rocket/spaceship control systems and related components were designed and produced in Electrophibor in Kharkiv, East Ukraine. Yangel OKB, designers of the frankly speaking ridiculously overpowered R-36 ICBM series was in Ukraine (including work for turning R-36 into Tsyklon and Dnepr satellite launchers), as well as teams responsible for Zenit carrier rocket (also used as boosters on Energia). There was also other R&D and manufacturing works scattered across Ukraine, but outside of those and already mentioned Antonov they were mostly related to areas that weren't my hobby so I can't recite them from memory. Lots of heavy industry related to tanks and related vehicles near Kharkiv, at least. EDIT: Also, post USSR breakup Ukraine ended up having to run a nuclear "weapons" program despite disavowing nuclear weapons - because they had full chain nuclear weapons industry from raw materials to final warhead assembly, and it was considered good idea to keep those people employed lest they be hired out by more militant places.

Waterluvian 4y ago

The sole Russian Carrier today was built and docked in Ukraine. When the USSR collapsed Russia stole and basically destroyed it out of sheer incompetence.

chokolad 4y ago
> The sole Russian Carrier today was built and docked in Ukraine. When the USSR collapsed Russia stole and basically destroyed it out of sheer incompetence. That's strictly due to geography. There are not too many places in USSR where one can build decently sized wharfs.
- Waterluvian 4y ago
  Indeed geography has a well-recorded way of shaping civilizations, cultures, and their competencies.
  - dopidopHN 4y ago
    Are you referring to Jared Diamond? My understanding is that he overstepped his boundary as a scientist here and lack recognition for that particular theory. But I’m a random guy; I might be off base myself
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
nradov 4y ago
True, but even if Ukraine had retained the Admiral Kuznetsov they wouldn't have been able to afford to operate it. They don't have the infrastructure or escort vessels that would have been needed. So, if they had kept the ship it would be rusting at the dock or broken up for scrap (which would be better for everyone).