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I doubt Microsoft cares that you migrated away.

by bunbun69 4y ago

_a_a_a_ 4y ago
How many of the top 500 supercomputers run windows? They care.
- evilduck 4y ago
  Or smartphones, or servers on the internet, or IoT devices, or car head units, or the computers that are put into the hands of every school age kid nowadays.
PostOnce 4y ago
Not only do they not care, they don't know I exist. That doesn't mean I have to tolerate their behavior. Their empire crumbles anyway, that's why they're doing this to Windows, because they know the future is (sadly) on the web, and the OS is less relevant than the browser now, and more replaceable than it was 20 years ago.
- nightski 4y ago
  No one said you had to tolerate it lol. They just said it's not really relevant to the discussion. Microsoft's empire is not crumbling.
  - PostOnce 4y ago
    Well, the existence of Google Docs in the office, of Chromebooks in schools, of AWS controlling a large share of what MS lusts after, etc indicate to me that perhaps they aren't destined to remained the dominant force they once were, similar to IBM. Now, I know Microsoft is a near-2-trillion-dollar company, but they would not be the first company to have realized the folly of resting on their laurels. Microsoft's future over the 20 year term doesn't look as rosy as it could. They'll remain a huge company, but perhaps they'll slip back into the hundreds-of-billions-of-dollars segment instead of the trillion-dollar-titan segment if the investments they're making don't pay off. They'll have huge income for decades because it's costly and time-consuming to move away from existing systems, but for new companies, Microsoft is no longer a given.
    - nightski 4y ago
      Microsoft is not sliding into irrelevance, they have been growing quite significantly precisely because they have not been resting. Azure is their primary focus, and it's now on the verge of becoming the largest cloud provider.
_Algernon_ 4y ago
HeckFeck 4y ago
No, but pissing off people who love computers the most is a terrible idea. The Windows 98-7 era made me like the system and aspire to be a developer for it. I remember wanting to make my own window! Now it is simply a hostile wasteland that I regard with suspicion and resentment. There is no love for it left. I now use Linux and bear with OSX when I need to. Windows 8, but especially 10, made a hardcore Unix freak out of me. Microsoft can't put a quarterly cost on it, but over time losing people who care will cost them everything.
- chii 4y ago
  > pissing off people who love computers the most is a terrible idea. back when balmer jumped up and down in a presentation yelling "developers, developers, developers", they were still good (despite balmer's terrible leadership). I think they're just losing the battle for mindshare now. Users would more easily move to macs, if they're a casual consumer of tech, and linux if they're more hardcore. Windows has no raison d'etre except for the gaming space imho, and i would hope that the steam deck propels WINE and linux onto gaming and remove the final hold from windows.
  - landemva 4y ago
    Mindshare and count of installed devices is now the phone. MS lost the phone battle a few years ago.
  - antod 4y ago
    > back when balmer jumped up and down in a presentation yelling "developers, developers, developers", they were still good (despite balmer's terrible leadership). My memory is probably faulty so corrections welcome, but wasn't "developers, developers, developers" a while before he became CEO?
  - lost_tourist 4y ago
    When you start listening only to marketers/accounting and ignoring your engineers and users, you will eventually fail.
fortyseven 4y ago
Drip... drip... drip...
MrRiddle 4y ago
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I doubt Microsoft cares that you migrated away.

_a_a_a_ 4y ago

How many of the top 500 supercomputers run windows? They care.

evilduck 4y ago
Or smartphones, or servers on the internet, or IoT devices, or car head units, or the computers that are put into the hands of every school age kid nowadays.

PostOnce 4y ago

Not only do they not care, they don't know I exist. That doesn't mean I have to tolerate their behavior. Their empire crumbles anyway, that's why they're doing this to Windows, because they know the future is (sadly) on the web, and the OS is less relevant than the browser now, and more replaceable than it was 20 years ago.

nightski 4y ago
No one said you had to tolerate it lol. They just said it's not really relevant to the discussion. Microsoft's empire is not crumbling.
- PostOnce 4y ago
  Well, the existence of Google Docs in the office, of Chromebooks in schools, of AWS controlling a large share of what MS lusts after, etc indicate to me that perhaps they aren't destined to remained the dominant force they once were, similar to IBM. Now, I know Microsoft is a near-2-trillion-dollar company, but they would not be the first company to have realized the folly of resting on their laurels. Microsoft's future over the 20 year term doesn't look as rosy as it could. They'll remain a huge company, but perhaps they'll slip back into the hundreds-of-billions-of-dollars segment instead of the trillion-dollar-titan segment if the investments they're making don't pay off. They'll have huge income for decades because it's costly and time-consuming to move away from existing systems, but for new companies, Microsoft is no longer a given.
  - nightski 4y ago
    Microsoft is not sliding into irrelevance, they have been growing quite significantly precisely because they have not been resting. Azure is their primary focus, and it's now on the verge of becoming the largest cloud provider.

_Algernon_ 4y ago

HeckFeck 4y ago

No, but pissing off people who love computers the most is a terrible idea. The Windows 98-7 era made me like the system and aspire to be a developer for it. I remember wanting to make my own window! Now it is simply a hostile wasteland that I regard with suspicion and resentment. There is no love for it left. I now use Linux and bear with OSX when I need to. Windows 8, but especially 10, made a hardcore Unix freak out of me. Microsoft can't put a quarterly cost on it, but over time losing people who care will cost them everything.

chii 4y ago
> pissing off people who love computers the most is a terrible idea. back when balmer jumped up and down in a presentation yelling "developers, developers, developers", they were still good (despite balmer's terrible leadership). I think they're just losing the battle for mindshare now. Users would more easily move to macs, if they're a casual consumer of tech, and linux if they're more hardcore. Windows has no raison d'etre except for the gaming space imho, and i would hope that the steam deck propels WINE and linux onto gaming and remove the final hold from windows.
- landemva 4y ago
  Mindshare and count of installed devices is now the phone. MS lost the phone battle a few years ago.
- antod 4y ago
  > back when balmer jumped up and down in a presentation yelling "developers, developers, developers", they were still good (despite balmer's terrible leadership). My memory is probably faulty so corrections welcome, but wasn't "developers, developers, developers" a while before he became CEO?
- lost_tourist 4y ago
  When you start listening only to marketers/accounting and ignoring your engineers and users, you will eventually fail.

fortyseven 4y ago

Drip... drip... drip...

MrRiddle 4y ago

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